Hand brake shoe replacement

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

Well it appears Repco were wrong when they told me they didn't have them, can get these shoes easy and pretty cheap.
I still have not changed them, I just keep adjusting them :-)
Not scraping metal yet........ Lol...... I slipped another set of rear pads in they only last 30,000klms/ 1 year, almost to metal....
Mud grinds I guess.........

Did I mention I'm supposed to be a brake specialist? Lol..... Really not looking forward to it, never done a Prado handbrake shoe, I'm sure after I finally do I will think what was the fuss about.

[butane8 Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close butane8]

His day butane, How the bloody hell did you fit the anti rattle clips, did you draw the axles like I am considering doing tomorrow as I have wasted enough time trying to fit these bloody clips

Wassa ( Frederick)

Wassa , i've got a terrible memory mate but, I'm pretty sure it was as you are lookin at the pads , spin the axle till the hole is close to 3 oclock ish.. lol..
right thumb and first digit went between the axle and the shoe holding the spring and twist plate in towards the backing plate of brakes.. OK guesture

any of the left over fingers that is in the position go around the back of the plate and hold the pin hard against the backing plate

get comfortable fingers wise fiddle a bit then the pin comes thro the retainer/twist plate... long nose flat pliers grabs the pin thro the axle hole and twist 90 the pliers and pin ... then realease you thumb to allow the retainer to seat properly

have a fiddle poke and prod to insure clip is settled in shoes all good... evan etc,, then change hands and re do opposite handed..
dont stress one side more frustrating than the other but unless you have short fat fingers... relax and it will be easy .. trick is to hold the spring in... compressed so the pin twists easy without and load

hope it helps.. thinking of ya .cheers butane

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

Just picked up the set Repco shoes at Repco retail is $54.99.
I think these are made by brake bonders, which have always been good in the past.

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

I changed the shoes on mine today.
Started at 9am, no swearing, no slipping, very str8 forward if you have experience changing brake shoes - (i hate them anyday)
including all the washing, fussing round, cleaning, relubing, not in a hurry it was done by 12midday.
It was a good experience & I worked out, would charge $300 to do for customers, learning day for me, just a bit more fiddly than some.

You wouldnt want to be in a hurry to do this job.
If you have not changed brake shoes, but are confident and have a LOT of patience, id say give it a go.
if you think it might be a p.i.t.a job, you are correct, if you are not good with patience and trying again, fiddy stuff needing 4 hands, then i would say pay someone to do it.
I remember when my first shoes change when i was a first year apprentice, hated it! still do really.
If this Prado handbrake was my first set, personally id pay someone to do it. (jeez the falcons are easy)

I hope that this might help with your decision if you should d.i.y or not, and what the job should be worth.

I also found 2 clips (1 at each side) at the base of the retainer springs bent, these locate the retainer, i assume they were bent and pulled away from an overextended handbrake, watch out if your handbrake comes up too far.
Sprayed crc up the cable from the bottom to flush the crud out.

good luck ppl.......

[butane8 Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close butane8]

nice d.i.y

####.. good job ,,,,,,especially the no swearing part
and your timing says you nailed it, hope you make a few few bucks outta doin more, cheers butane

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

Thank you,

Hey on a clean non offroader, I recon after a bit of practise might nail it within the hour.
Remembering I'm fully equipt, hoist, rattle gun etc, and used to all of this.
But that might cause a sweat, so I better not try..... :-)
We used to drop autos out of falcons in 10-15 minutes when we wanted to.

Cheers!

[Ken in Cairns Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ken in Cairns]

Here is a good link anbout the handbrake, it is for a 90/95 Series, but good info on how to set them up as well.

http://www.landcruiserclub.net/forum...our-hand-brake

[Whitey1 Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Whitey1]

Time to replace my handbrake shoes(150000 km). Easy job, 1 to 2 hours tops, so I thought! Bought a set of Repco ones for $22 trade. The guy behind the counter said "that can't be right.........yep that's the price".
So up on the hoist and had them swapped over in about an hour.
Then the fun started......bloody things would randomly grab and lock up which made it very hard to adjust. Pulled them apart several times to try to figure out what was going on. 4 hours later and I'm still having problems! Arrrgh!!!!! So close to chucking the old ones back on and giving up! Maybe they just need to bed in. So I adjusted them as best I could and drove it home. Left ones a bit hot so I'll have to have another go at adjusting it tomorrow. I'm over it!

[Bushbasher Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close Bushbasher]

How worn were the old ones? My disc brake pads all still look nice and chunky despite being 5 years old. Must be living in the country that makes them last longer.

[Whitey1 Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Whitey1]

How worn were the old ones? My disc brake pads all still look nice and chunky despite being 5 years old. Must be living in the country that makes them last longer.

Hand brake shoes were almost down to the metal on one of them. The main disc brake pads are still fine after 150000 km and 6 years. Most of that is country driving too.

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Hand brake shoes were almost down to the metal on one of them.

So, you're saying that the handbrake is worn out. Would she mind if you got a new one?

[jcsmsmith Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close jcsmsmith]

It sounds like the disk needed to be machined.Our corolla had a problem that was nearly the same as it would grab in reverse.

[scottkz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close scottkz]

incedently the handbrake spring sets are the same in all toyota 4WDs from about 88 onwards..... iv got to do them on one side in my 90 as something failed and the one side of the shoe fell off... bits were rattling and getting munched up inside the drum! still the shoes are still fine so there just going back on with a new spring set....original shoes got me 280k. but need new rotors drums fine but discs undersize.

i hate drums with a passion! why didnt they just do what mazda did in the 80s and make the handbrake operate the caliper !

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incedently the handbrake spring sets are the same in all toyota 4WDs from about 88 onwards..... iv got to do them on one side in my 90 as something failed and the one side of the shoe fell off... bits were rattling and getting munched up inside the drum! still the shoes are still fine so there just going back on with a new spring set....original shoes got me 280k. but need new rotors drums fine but discs undersize.

i hate drums with a passion! why didnt they just do what mazda did in the 80s and make the handbrake operate the caliper !

Toyota like other makes did put the handbrake on the calipers on many vehicles.
These have their own problems, some are very hard to retract when changing pads.
They often don't hold well either, it takes a lot more pressure to get the same stopping friction on pads.
So because the vehicle starts heavy, it's likely going to be loaded and have a trailer the manufacturers realise a drum set up is what is required to hold the vehicle. We know even with the drums it can be hard to hold the vehicle at times, but a disc with the same load would have no hope.

I don't like drums either.

[Whitey1 Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Whitey1]

I ended up getting my mechanic to fix it. Seems the drums needed machining, the new shoes were catching on a ridge causing them to drag. All good now.