Auto trans service

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

If you are pushing the dealer and they are reluctant to do it, I would not push further. They might not do it but still charge you for it or they would just dump what's in the sump and not do a full flush.

Dealers..... thats the nice looking place with the people in shirt n tie?
some of the kids out the back not doing too much........
But thats just what i saw when i used to work in those dealerships.......

[Bell Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Bell]

Hey my *09 diesel 120 has done about 280,000 km I've had it 7 months now and I don't know if it has ever had a transmission flush. I think it would be good to do. Do I use a synthetic or non-synthetic? Which oil is a good choice? Oh and is there a transmission flushing agent you use before it gets topped back up again? Never done this before but want to give it a go.

Thanks,
Bell

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Hi there Bell, going by MackayVX's reply I wouldnt be using the oil he has used. I would go and get the genuine Toyota stuff from over the counter, at least then you know its running the genuine stuff. Not all transmission fluids are the same and can cause major damage if you use the wrong stuff, mitsi's are well know for having their own fluid to suit. A friend of mine runs a transmission shop just out of Blacktown here in Sydney's western suburbs and he actually gets the mitsi oil from mitsi and he said it is totally different to the other fluids he uses for other vehicles. He charges $220 for a full system flush on some special machine he has so it actually flushes the full system and not just whats in the sump. Im not sure if this includes the oil ?? I must ask as I have never had mine flushed and now sitting on 114k so I reckon its well and truely due. After reading some forums on this ""for the life of the vehicle" some people have had their oil come out extremely dark and some with a burning smell and at low klms's, certainly not the life of the vehicle. I imagine it would some huge $$$ involved in repairing one of these later type (5 speed/6 speed) boxes. I would hate to be paying for some of these 8 speed boxes in the BM's and euro vehicles......Cheers Steve

[frederick Member Find all posts View Profile Close frederick]

Hi guys, had mine done before my northern safari towing the caravan, the dude at sure shift automatics in Virginia brisbane did the real flush which cost an extra $100 bucks ( $350) in total but after towing the caravan 18000 ks it was well worth it. The report back after the service was the tranny oil was a black as shit and well overdue for the change at 160,000 ks. Car has now done 198000 and runs real sweet

Wassa ( Frederick)

[mackayvx Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close mackayvx]

Hi there Bell, going by MackayVX's reply I wouldnt be using the oil he has used.

Yep fair enough. I actually got under the car the day as this thread had me thinking about my trans... As it worked out, the 'weeping seals' I thought I had was actually 'flick off' of gease from the unijoints with Cape York bulldust stuck to it... Phew...
There is one small weep on the LHS from where it looks like a large circlip holding something in... Its a minor weep though.
For a tranny thats done 250 thou kms its actually in good shape.

[mackayvx Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close mackayvx]

Hey my *09 diesel 120 has done about 280,000 km I've had it 7 months now and I don't know if it has ever had a transmission flush. I think it would be good to do. Do I use a synthetic or non-synthetic? Which oil is a good choice? Oh and is there a transmission flushing agent you use before it gets topped back up again? Never done this before but want to give it a go.

Thanks,
Bell

Gday bell.
As steve said just stick with genuine T IV or WS, whatever your spec is mate. That way there is no wondering 'what if'.
Also another thing to research is the theory that flushing a tranny with high kms on it may actually do it damage.
Its definately personal choice but the theory is that alot of the trannys friction material is present in the fluid that you would be flushing out.
There are some stories around of trannys with high k's on them not ever being the same after a flush... Even with genuine fluid.

[craigm Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close craigm]

I need to drop my Pan for some unknown reason???. So it is a good excuse to change the oil...(and install some underbody protection!)


Another Angle....

[mackayvx Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close mackayvx]

I need to drop my Pan for some unknown reason???.

Oh dear... Yes well some bash plates would have payed for them selves on that one!

You may as well do the tranny filter while the pan is off too mate!!!

Bloody hell!!!!

[Steve M Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close Steve M]

You might not get it back on lol....Bet you shit when you did that, looks like it may have been close to holing it ?? Yes I agree with mackayvx's reply on flushing. May do more damage then good as said. I will ask my mate on his thoughts of this. I did flush my power steer on our old statesman as they have speed control power steer which makes it super lite when parking but stiffens up at higher speeds but ours was staying firm even at low speeds till you stopped the engine then restarted it so power steer bloke said to flush it out while running to maybe remove any shit that may have been blocking some valve in the steering rack. I did that and all was good for two days then I opened the garage door up one morning after the wife had left and gone to work in it be faced with a pile of power steer fluid on the floor. By flushing it it had obviously removed/damaged or what ever to the front seal on the pump and blew it out (what a friggen mess) Had to get a new pump $300 wasnt so bad doing it myself saved some labour costs, so yeah maybe flushing isn't such a great idea now that mackay has mentioned it ?? ........Cheers Steve

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I need to drop my Pan for some unknown reason???. So it is a good excuse to change the oil...(and install some underbody protection!)


Another Angle....

Ouch Craig, That's a decent ding.
Do tell, have you been sneaking off doing some rock crawling in the prado...

[johna Member Find all posts View Profile Close johna]

Mr

Have changed my auto fluid every 40,000 since new 2003, and have it "flushed" with a standard fluid change, run ir for a couple of k's then drop it and fill again with new standard fluid, and now have nearly 200,000 k's and towed a 2 1/2 ton van for over 120,00 k's.
Box still working like new . Cheaper to change all fluids at regular intervals than paying for repairs.
Have transfer case and front and rear diffs done at the same 40,000 intervals.

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Ouch Craig, That's a decent ding.
Do tell, have you been sneaking off doing some rock crawling in the prado...

Trip to Ormeau last Sunday. Ventured down the track we did last time (Verrry Rocky...) Actually didnt notice any strong impact and we were spotting each other all the way down so I was quite surprised when finding this after backing out of a mates driveway and finding a small pool of fluid on the ground. Turned out to only be the drain plug that had been forced loose and had begun to weep fluid. (Phew....)

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

IMO flushing is a waste of $$$.
I used to use a machine to flush them.
We used to flush 15litres.......
It goes in one end out the other.
So it's still not getting it all out.
There's nothing to separate the new from the old, you cannot run it dry.
So what's coming out is also new oil that just went in mixed with the old stuff.
There is a drain bolt there for a good reason, drop it out and refill is quick, easy and cost effective.
Yes it doesn't all come out, but either does flushing......
Just drop it more often if you want it cleaner.
A change usually gets 5 liters out.
That's pretty good. Just my 2 cents or so?

[mackayvx Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close mackayvx]

IMO flushing is a waste of $$$.
I used to use a machine to flush them.
We used to flush 15litres.......
It goes in one end out the other.
So it's still not getting it all out.

How do these machines work???

'In one end and out the other' doesnt make much sense to me.

[uk_vette Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close uk_vette]

Hi all, has anyone had there auto trans, serviced/fluid changed by a Toyota Dealer, my local recommended I don't do it. Not required
Even thou auto specialist do say service at 20k
Any thoughts?
Cheers
Steve J

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I went to my local Toyota dealer, who has serviced my 120 from day 1.
I asked them to change the auto transmission oil, as it had, at that time, about 320,000km.

He said, no need, not required, "Is there any problem, slipping, slow shifts

NO, I said.

Then bring it back when you have 500,000km, then we will change it.
Now I am up to 400,000km, and runs as sweet as the day I got it, so it looks like, the answer is, unless there is a problem, then just leave it.

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