Spacer vs warranty

[Mattfunk 120 Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mattfunk 120]

The 884 springs shouldn't be advertised as suited with any accessories over the front for a 2" lift. The 885 is more adequate

I can't believe how a 2" lift is advertised but 1" is considered acceptable at the front but not at the rear. So as Jason said, you end up with an exaggerated nose down stance. I would bring this up to head office or PM the ARB rep here.

Hi Amts , after the branch weren't interested & manager never rang back I contact head office Melbourne and sent a detailed email of my troubles, then head office QLD at Nundah called back and I talked to the bloke for about an hour. He was adamant that he wouldn't have installed 885s on my vehicle . When getting a quote I mentioned I wanted to accomodate future winch without upgrading coils. Hard to argue with someone who has more knowledge than you and "has been on the business 16 yrs". Phone call was left with me still expressing my disappointment and him saying if it continued to drop he would be happy to take a look at it. Need to get a little more info and droop and am ready to pull these out a get different coils. I,m ready to ask for a refund as I don't think I should have to fork out as I'm not dealing with a one man band but a multi national company . It would of cost them maybe a $400 warranty claim to replace them but now I don't want replacements as this has already been too hard. Spent 10k+ at their shop in the last 2 yrs & now I won't be stepping thru their doors ever again. Hopefully people following this will be aware of the questions I wasn't knowledgable enough to ask at the time .
Cheers Matt

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Hey Matt, if you come to the conclusion the springs are crap (looks like they are no good for your setup) let me know. As long as you have flat concrete at your place I can come down after work one arvo and we can get stuck in. I'll bring the work ute with stands, jack, tools, etc. even being the scan tool and we can have a squiz at those injector values. Let me know mate, happy to help out after you have been screwed buy one of our lovely suppliers up here.

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ARB's 1" lift front spring is the 883, the 884 should be 1" with a bit of extra weight up front and the 885 40mm lift with a few goodies.

As for the original measurements of 750 / 780, I know I measured a new 120 series Prado once and that was the figures I got.

Cheers Andrew

Hey all,

I think AJ's figures are spot on, take a look at my lift vs coil free length plot, the 883, 884, and 885 coils are consistent with the above figures.

http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...0-series-Prado

I pulled these numbers from various places here on Pradopoint, so they prolly include bullbars in some cases.

Note that the only 885 coil I have in the plot has almost 2.4" lift!

I tend to use 770mm for the rear, but it is usally somewhere in the 770-780mm range for a factory rear end.

Best

Mark

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Spacer vs warranty

Got a set of stands you can borrow Matt if you're not ready to buy a set just yet..

Thanks Craig , however this may be a case of this is something I need to buy wifey! I'm going to have to rotate my tyres soon soon so these will be handy . Saw this at supercheap. Is it to cheap & nasty? If the prado weighs about 2t and these stands are 1200kg each & I only lift the front or back at one time and use 2 stands I should be ok? Trolley jack ok being 1200kg?
Edit : well that didn't work
http://m.supercheapauthttp://www.sup...5-Piece/358257

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You would want a trolley jack like this one due to the lifting range. A 1200kg jack would be too low.
http://catalogues.repco.com.au/offer...arch&term=jack

After using pinned car stands, I would go with the ratchet type if I was to start over
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/onl...ecommendations

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Hey Matt, if you come to the conclusion the springs are crap (looks like they are no good for your setup) let me know. As long as you have flat concrete at your place I can come down after work one arvo and we can get stuck in. I'll bring the work ute with stands, jack, tools, etc. even being the scan tool and we can have a squiz at those injector values. Let me know mate, happy to help out after you have been screwed buy one of our lovely suppliers up here.

Pradopoint is great .Im Feelin the love. So much help offered from Whitey trying to learn me on suspension and people like Andy who we chew the fat with on steak night . People helping people out . Thanks Andy ill pm you mate. Will have to get my values checked soon. I'll get this droop checked first I think on the weekend. Talk soon .
Matt

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Hey Matt, I personally would go for a slightly better jack. Buy a good one once and it will last the home workshop a lifetime (well a very long time at least).
http://catalogues.repco.com.au/catal...30413#pageNo=8
The one at the top of page 9 for $159 is great, it's actually the one I'm using for work at the moment. You will find with a lifted 4wd the little ones can run out of travel before you get it high enough.

I'm guessing you are looking at the 5 peice workshop kit they have on sale at the moment for $79.99, everything in that kit will technically work, but really is underrated for a heavy 4wd. I can't imagine the jack lasting very long even in a home workshop, and you will curse at the amount of effort required to use it and avoid doing the wheel rotation.

I personally prefer pin type stands, they are much more positively locked compaired to ratchet type ones and cheaper for the same quality. You will need 4 stands to do a wheel rotation too, never work on a car without stands!

Edit: The load rating on stands is when used as a pair on a hard level surface and evenly loaded, I bet your prado weighs over 1.2T over the front axle as you jack the back up. You always need plenty of head room when talking about safety equipment

Edit2: Damn you Andrew, posted while I was trying to get links. It is a great Jack

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Hey Matt, I personally would go for a slightly better jack. Buy a good one once and it will last the home workshop a lifetime (well a very long time at least).
http://catalogues.repco.com.au/catal...30413#pageNo=8
The one at the top of page 9 for $159 is great, it's actually the one I'm using for work at the moment. You will find with a lifted 4wd the little ones can run out of travel before you get it high enough.

Snap

You will need 4 stands to do a wheel rotation too, never work on a car without stands!

I've only ever used the trolley jack for a 5-tyre rotation.

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I've only ever used the trolley jack for a 5-tyre rotation.

So you only have one wheel off at a time? And don't do anything else while the wheel is off?

I find the handbrake usually needs adjusting when rotating wheels, and I'm usually fiddling around with something else at the same time. You could probably get away with two stands (one pair) if budget was a big concern. I would prefer one pair of good stands than two pairs of crappy ones.

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Matt, have a look on the Trade Tools website. 3000kg stands for $58 for the pair. Identical as the Kinchrome at SCA only orange in color

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Matt, have a look on the Trade Tools website. 3000kg stands for $58 for the pair. Identical as the Kinchrome at SCA only orange in color

And pretty much the same as the Bluepoint ones.

Matt call ARB head office and try and track down Sam who sometimes posts on here. Scream blue murder about how you have been treated.

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So you only have one wheel off at a time? And don't do anything else while the wheel is off?

Yes. Basically I work out where the spare tyre needs to go (position 1). Then take off position 1 wheel. Then work out where that wheel needs to go (position 2). Take off position 2 wheel. And so on.

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Yes. Basically I work out where the spare tyre needs to go (position 1). Then take off position 1 wheel. Then work out where that wheel needs to go (position 2). Take off position 2 wheel. And so on.

No worries, I guess I'm just so used to doing it the way I do I can't see the obvious! I guess it's just the safety side of me wanting to make sure no one has an accident, vehicles are heavy and hurt when something goes wrong.

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No real difference to swapping tyres on the road. The wheel that is ready to go on is right beside you so you would just do a remove and install in a minute. A 1/2" cordless impact driver helps.

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Matt call ARB head office and try and track down Sam who sometimes posts on here. Scream blue murder about how you have been treated.

May be last resort as I've emailed oz head office and then QLD head office rang me back. I now have to put up with it or pull the coils out. I just don't want replacement coils anymore Need enough info to warrant a refund so I can go elsewhere . Maybe the problem is I haven't screamed but that's not my style to carry on like a pork chop.