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  • Bilstein BE5-A713

    Anyone know if and where I could purchase 1 Bilstein BE5-A713 preferably online as I live in NZ and would need to ship it.
    As it looks like I have a leaking rear.
    Thanks in advance

  • #2
    Hi.

    The 713 isn't a good shock. The travel is short and the valving is wrong. Better to replace it with a pair of better travel shocks.
    2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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    • #3
      Originally posted by crozmac View Post
      looks like I have a leaking rear.
      Doesnt sound good.

      As for the shocks https://www.sparesbox.com.au ships to NZ and has the 713, but it might be best to do both and upgrade them as photoprado mentioned.
      2007 120 GXL D4D 6sp Man - My Rig https://www.pradopoint.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24945&d=1487341201

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      • #4
        I think they have 20% on ebay at the moment (sparesbox_auto that is)

        Originally posted by LowRange View Post
        Doesnt sound good.

        As for the shocks https://www.sparesbox.com.au ships to NZ and has the 713, but it might be best to do both and upgrade them as photoprado mentioned.

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        • #5
          Okay team, i replaced the right rear 713 as it was leaking. Now my left rear is leaking.
          so looking at purchasing a set of rear shocks for my 07 prado with standard height king springs in it.
          Do I take a chance and buy another set of 713's or try something else?
          Looking to buy them of the net because i live in rural nz.
          Who has the best prices online?
          Thanks in advance

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          • #6
            From what I recall, the 713 is not that different to the standard Toyota shocks, in relation to bump/rebound settings. Or travel length.
            Rob.
            '08 GXL V6 Manual with: O/L Bar, Cibie Oscars, Safari Snorkel, Revalved Ironman 45710 Struts & 45682 Shocks, Dobinsons & King springs, MickeyT STZs, Eaton E-locker on rear, ScanGaugeII, InaWise TPMS, and a Tvan controlled via TowPro.

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            • #7
              actually has less travel than a set of stock shocks.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Atherton View Post
                actually has less travel than a set of stock shocks.
                https://www.pradopoint.com.au/forum/...nsion-database

                Standard Prado 120:
                Code:
                 
                 Rear Shock              Open   Travel Closed (Notes)                         mm     mm     mm  
                 Standard     Prado 120  574    215    359 (Measured)   
                 Bilstein     BE5-A713   580    212    368
                2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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                • #9
                  I stand corrected. I believe that the long travel option below is the better choice.
                  Bilstein 24-217897 610 230 380 #

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Atherton View Post
                    I stand corrected. I believe that the long travel option below is the better choice.
                    Bilstein 24-217897 610 230 380 #
                    Ironman vs Bilstein:
                    Code:
                     
                     Ironman      45682FE    618    235    383 Foam Cell Pro
                    Code:
                     Bilstein   24-217897    610    230    380 #
                    2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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                    • #11
                      Why stop there, Caloffroad make a longer travel option I believe or just put shocks for a 4 inch lifted 80 series on it if you want flex that badly. I was responding to the inquiry of bilsten shocks. The 713's are clearly not worth it as you're basically not really getting much more travel than stock. I've got a set of 897's on my 150 and I'm really happy with them. Not sure how the ironmans compare to Bilstein, quality wise I'd like to think the billys are better made although I have no proof of this aside from the reputations of the individual brands themselves.

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                      • #12
                        I only mentioned about shocks we used on the rear of the 120. That included the 713's and the Ironman 45682FE

                        Wouldn't ever buy shocks from Caloffroad, and don't need 4 inch lifted.

                        If you read Whitey's information on PP about the Ironman shocks for the Prado, they are excellent. They are able to be revalved and Whitey did it for ours.
                        2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, did read extensively about whiteys shocks- Unfortunately I missed out on the revalved shocks for the 150. It's my understanding that most shocks can be revalved given the person doing it has the right tools, testing equipment, time and knowledge. Whitey from what I've heard and read has an extensive background in physics and engineering- exactly the type of person you'd want doing it. I did read the reviews on whiteys stuff and everyone who purchased them had nothing but praise for them- a testament to his skill no doubt at all. It's my understanding that he's not making them any more (although I'd be happy to be corrected if this isn't the case).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Atherton View Post
                            It's my understanding that he's not making them any more (although I'd be happy to be corrected if this isn't the case).
                            Whitey isn't doing them now on Pradopoint, but Zordo was spending time helping Whitey to get them sorted and delivered. If you're interested ring him and he will tell you if they are available and revalved for the Prado. http://www.zordos4wdsuspension.com.au/contact-details
                            2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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