Was he towing or had been towing a work trailer? The LHR is the typical tyre to go from towing.
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Originally posted by Trekrider View PostNo previous tyre damage, don't know about tyre pressure but it was his standard road pressure. TPMS is unlikely to have shown anything as it held pressure even after delaminating.[B][SIZE=4]ntp
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Just another perfect example of the reputed king of off road tyres .03 grande v6 , with added stuff that makes it go places . RTFM people !
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Originally posted by ntp View PostThat's why I asked to see the batch number. Be interesting to see when they were made.
I've seen this plenty of times with tyre re-treads.
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http://thomasjhenrylaw.com/blawg/coo...ad-separation/
Report Date : December 20, 2012 at 07:56 PM
NHTSA Campaign ID number : 12T010000
Tire Brand Name / Tire Line / Tire Size: Production Dates:
COOPER / DISCOVERER H/T / LT235/85R16 DEC 11, 2011 - DEC 17, 2011
COOPER / DISCOVERER H/T / P265/70R17 JAN 01, 2012 - JAN 07, 2012
COOPER / DISCOVERER LSX / 265/70R17 JAN 01, 2012 - JAN 07, 2012
COOPER / MASTERCRAFT COURSER HTR / LT235/85R16 DEC 11, 2011 - DEC 17, 2011
DEL-NAT / DELTA A/S SIERRADIAL / 265/70R17 JAN 01, 2012 - JAN 07, 2012
DEL-NAT / NATIONAL A/S COMMANDO / 265/70R17 JAN 01, 2012 - JAN 07, 2012
PEP BOYS / DEFINITY DAKOTA H/T / P265/70R17 JAN 01, 2012 - JAN 07, 2012
TBC / SIGMA STAMPEDE RADIAL SUV / P265/70R17 JAN 01, 2012 - JAN 07, 2012
Manufacturer: COOPER TIRE & RUBBER CO. Report Receipt
Date: JUN 08, 2012
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 12T010000 NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: TIRES:TREAD/BELT
Potential Number of Units Affected: 10,236
Summary:
COOPER TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY (COOPER) IS RECALLING CERTAIN COOPER BRAND DISCOVERER H/T TIRES, SIZES LT235/85R16 AND P265/70R17; DISCOVERER LSX, SIZE 265/70R17; AND MASTERCRAFT COURSER HTR, SIZE LT235/85R16. ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS RECALL ARE TIRES BRANDED AS DEL-NAT DELTA A/S SIERRADIAL OR NATIONAL A/S COMMANDO, SIZE 265/70R17; PEP BOYS DEFINITY DAKOTA H/T, SIZE P265/70R17; AND TBC SIGMA STAMPEDE RADIAL SUV, SIZE P265/70R17. CONTAMINATED RUBBER MAY HAVE BEEN USED IN THE TREAD COMPOUND WHICH COULD RESULT IN TREAD SEPARATION.
Consequence:
TREAD SEPARATION CAN RESULT IN LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL, INCREASING THE RISK OF A VEHICLE CRASH.
Remedy:
COOPER WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE TIRES FREE OF CHARGE. FREE MOUNTING AND BALANCING WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED, AS APPLICABLE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JUNE 15, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT COOPER TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY’S CONSUMER RELATIONS DEPARTMENT AT 1-800-854-6288.
Notes:
COOPER’S RECALL NUMBER IS 156. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .Last edited by ntp; 21-12-2012, 10:59 AM.[B][SIZE=4]ntp
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Originally posted by mybo View PostHas anyone heard any reports of this happening to the newer Cooper models? I've got AT/3s, and after 20,000kms am still very happy with them.
I know someone with ST/Maxx who is also very happy after giving them a good thrashing in the bush.
The ST model has been around for a long time, and I've heard plenty of bad stories for them... just wonder if Coopers has actually taken notice and improved their recent products.2004 Silver GX 4spd auto 3.0 T/D, Safari snorkel, dual batteries (Piranha), Bilstein suspension upgrade & lift, ARB winch-bar, diff breathers, GXL steel wheels and 245X17 Cooper AT3s, Autosafe cargo barrier, Kulkyne side awning & Oztent, Toyota 3 bar rack, Maxtrax, other ARB & TJM recovery gear, Engel and Waeco fridges, Towpro, GME uhf, AMTS recovery points, Tvan
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Pep Boys? Sigma Stampede? Oh yeah, I'd love some of them on my ride for sure.Dave
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That recall looks like it is for the US market , the tyre in the original post looks like the ST tread pattern and it is definitely an old tyre, when i say old probably over 5 years, people sometimes get confused with a tyre that has lots of tread and think its new , its not , once its made its starts deteriorating , doesn't matter what brand , that's why the production date on the side is so important and it is a good idea to check it on you own tyres - even when you buy them !!
I have just retired from owning a Tyrepower store in the Midwest and would come across this type of delamination all the time
There have been very few instances of faulty manufacturing , maybe 2 or 3 in the last 15 years that i came across2012 Graphite GXL T/D Auto, with all the normal crap you fit
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Originally posted by Bushbasher View PostPep Boys? Sigma Stampede? Oh yeah, I'd love some of them on my ride for sure.
(I think) I'm disappointed they don't come with raised white lettering.
But... what is it with Cooper tires???? Either really really good reviews and happy owners, or really really bad and pissed off owners.Last edited by rhs58; 21-12-2012, 07:01 PM.2013 Land Rover Discovery 4 SDV6 SE
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Originally posted by rhs58 View PostWell..... I'm fitting Bridgestone "MY02 Sporty Style" tyres to the Honda tomorrow. FFS??!!
(I think) I'm disappointed they don't come with raised white lettering.
But... what is it with Cooper tires???? Either really really good reviews and happy owners, or really really bad and pissed off owners.
i.e , selling cooper stt's for somebody's shopping trolley instead of a HT or an AT3, one of the worst i saw was Zeons fitted to a Cruiser that was towing across our country , well they wore out in 20K , not the tyres fault it isn't made for that2012 Graphite GXL T/D Auto, with all the normal crap you fit
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hi all, about the cooper st got a new set put on 12 months ago, when the tyre fitter was balancing the new one up he started to put a 140gms to 180 of weight on the rim , when i told him thats to much weight his words where dont blame me blame coopers as the aussie dollers to strong they send there not so perfect tyres over , one tyre was so bad i refused to pay until they got a full set of replacements keep in mind i had 2 sets no balance probelm on other 4x4, so do i get a new set, i think not. at the moment the car aways has to get a wheel balance/rotation every service or the vibraion is unreal next tyre will be jap-andy2007 Grey Gxl, ARB bar ,Lightforce xgts HID100watt ,RFDS radio,Cooper St
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I too have noticed an unusual amount of lead on my Cooper's too (ST Maxx). I've had four replaced free of charge after "stock folding issue". Basically side wall rubber separating from bead rubber resulting in radial splits around bead. Dealer said they were still safe just cosmetic! Too right, they looked shit house I said. Had three replaced initially, then one of those did the same, also replaced. Haven't had any issues since, just excessive balance weight, something I didn't think would be needed for such an expensive tire. ( My old Bighorns needed half as much!) I'm really happy now, done plenty of k's on different terrain, well outperform the Bighorn, but to be fair, that's comparing apples with........ turds.
Cheers,
Dusty
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When I was wanting to buy new tyres a few years back I wanted Cooper STT's. I went to a few tyre retailers shopping around and two of them (they said the identical thing to one another) said they used to sell Coopers, a lot of them, but got sick of being caught in the middle with no support from Coopers for genuine warranty claims so they stopped ordering them in. Pretty interesting really. At the time Goodyear (through a different dealer altogether) were offering a guarantee for your purchase for damage done to your tyres on & off-road no matter the damage done so long as it wasn't repairable with a simple patch. If you staked a tyre through the sidewall, take it back and you only pay the percentage difference in the tread that has been used. I thought that was pretty good so bought them. Cooper would never do that.Last edited by Brett1979; 16-01-2013, 08:26 PM.2005 120 series V6 Grande, 2 inch susp lift (King/EFS combo), 32 inch MT’s, Safari Snorkel, rear diff lock, breathers, Light Force spotlights, UHF, dual batteries.
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Originally posted by Dusty74 View PostI too have noticed an unusual amount of lead on my Cooper's too (ST Maxx). I've had four replaced free of charge after "stock folding issue". Basically side wall rubber separating from bead rubber resulting in radial splits around bead. Dealer said they were still safe just cosmetic! Too right, they looked shit house I said. Had three replaced initially, then one of those did the same, also replaced. Haven't had any issues since, just excessive balance weight, something I didn't think would be needed for such an expensive tire. ( My old Bighorns needed half as much!) I'm really happy now, done plenty of k's on different terrain, well outperform the Bighorn, but to be fair, that's comparing apples with........ turds.
Cheers,
Dusty
I had the same thing happen to me on a set of ATR's @ 30K..........i was told no warranty as it was thought to be an under inflation issue and not faulty manufacturing....pigs ass.......also the side wall had perished that badly that you could dig chunks out with your thumbnail.
Needless to say i won't buy them again,also that particular dealer does not sell them anymore aswell.
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