Is the 150 showing any signs of cracked inner guards

[peterlc]

the battery tray has a bracket that bolts to the front radiator support panel and stops any Fwd/Rev movement and it also has a 10mm rubber pad under the battery ..... I cant see that the battery is a problem especially seeing that the OE LH side battery guard area crack is identical to the 2nd battery guard area ... as for the patch solution being a 100mm wide strap the same contour as the guard I would be very doubtful if bolting it on would stop the crack from spreading .... I would think a more permanent fix solution would be to get it expertly welded in as well as getting the crack welded ..... all I can say is the whole deal is most unsatisfactory and I think that when I get it all sorted the Prado will be traded in on something more robust .... possibly a ute that they are now developing for the mining industry which are designed for and come with a "Factory fitted dual battery and steel bull bar and canvas covered seats" such as is the case for the latest Ford Ranger release .... see carsguide/Ford Australia for more info.

best regards Peter ....... most unhappy

[krypto]

Hey Krypto..... can u please let us know a bit more about this Toyota Genuine Patch Kit?

Toyota Part Number?

Approximate Cost??

We already have had our RHS crack & repaired & strengthened by Toyota, but I'm concerned about the LHS. Since the repair we have done quite a bit of rough outback kms w/o any signs of more cracks, but I've also reinforced the RHS battery tray and how it sits & now I might have to look at doing the same to the LHS battery....

I've never heard of this Toyota Patch kit, so I'm definitely interested in learning more.....

Hi Rob, was never able to find out the part number. Both of our vehicles were stock suspension and no bullbar so the cracked guards were fixed under warranty. It does seem that Toyota are trying to keep the existence of the patch kit a secret.

The job doesn't take more than a few hours as it only involves cleaning under the guard, fitting the kit which is an exact match of the guard and then bolting it into place.

As to the other posts, the weight of the battery plays a big part in the problem but changing the design of the bracket really doesn't help. I spent a lot of time looking into this. Patch kit eliminates the structural weakness.

[rob_macca67]

the 2nd battery tray is an 4x4 off road from geelong .... a much more solid unit than the TJM .... yes the BB is a TJM unit and I do not have a winch installed .... what is this "Genuine Toyota patch kit" .... does the local Toyota dealer install it or does the local panel shop need to do the job ..... maybe it will solve my problem .

cheers Peter

It's not the solidness of the unit, more so does it have any "extra" Cross Bracing like the TJM carrier. The TJM one has a bracket that bolts to the front radiator support panel and stops any Fwd/Rev movement of the battery and therefor any flexing (to my knowledge).
AFAIK, there has been NO REPORTS of any guards cracking that have a TJM battery carry installed.......... So far at least.....

[peterlc]

the 2nd battery tray is an 4x4 off road from geelong .... a much more solid unit than the TJM .... yes the BB is a TJM unit and I do not have a winch installed .... what is this "Genuine Toyota patch kit" .... does the local Toyota dealer install it or does the local panel shop need to do the job ..... maybe it will solve my problem .

cheers Peter

[rob_macca67]

Hi Guys ... I have just discovered cracks on both inner guards of my 2010 / 150 which has now done 152000 ks it has been up the tip and across the aSimpson as well as the Bungles and various other dirt road destinations .... I am not to pleased with the situation so I will hopefully take it up with Toyota and TJM .... hope I get some satisfaction if not looks like I will have to take it to a panel shop to have it rectified and strengthened .... so ye s they do CRACK.

Mate, u mentioned TJM (i'm assuming you are referring to your bullbar), just wondering what "brand" dual battery tray you have??

TJM or a other brand battery tray ??

[rob_macca67]

My mate and I bith had cracked guards with no bullbar. The cause seems to be high frequency vibration from corrugations.

We've both had the genuine Toyota patch kit fitted. Looks better than new and a lot stronger

Hey Krypto..... can u please let us know a bit more about this Toyota Genuine Patch Kit?

Toyota Part Number?

Approximate Cost??

We already have had our RHS crack & repaired & strengthened by Toyota, but I'm concerned about the LHS. Since the repair we have done quite a bit of rough outback kms w/o any signs of more cracks, but I've also reinforced the RHS battery tray and how it sits & now I might have to look at doing the same to the LHS battery....

I've never heard of this Toyota Patch kit, so I'm definitely interested in learning more.....

[krypto]

My mate and I bith had cracked guards with no bullbar. The cause seems to be high frequency vibration from corrugations.

We've both had the genuine Toyota patch kit fitted. Looks better than new and a lot stronger

[peterlc]

Do you have dual batteries by any chance? Do you drop tyre pressures on corrugations? It might not be the bullbar causing the issue.

allways drop the tyres to about 24 on corry and about 18 on sand ... have dual batteries / both the same size as standard oe ..... cant see how that could cause problem as the oe starter battery side is cracked exactly the same as the 2nd battery side ....

[fido666]

Hi Guys ... I have just discovered cracks on both inner guards of my 2010 / 150 which has now done 152000 ks

Do you have dual batteries by any chance? Do you drop tyre pressures on corrugations? It might not be the bullbar causing the issue.

[peterlc]

Hi Guys ... I have just discovered cracks on both inner guards of my 2010 / 150 which has now done 152000 ks it has been up the tip and across the aSimpson as well as the Bungles and various other dirt road destinations .... I am not to pleased with the situation so I will hopefully take it up with Toyota and TJM .... hope I get some satisfaction if not looks like I will have to take it to a panel shop to have it rectified and strengthened .... so ye s they do CRACK.

[fido666]

I wouldn't be too worried MadMax, my new Century Overlander is also larger than the tray but hasn't moved since being installed over 3 weeks ago. The Prado has done some High Country driving including a fair bit of bouncing around in the last 2 weeks as well.

[madmax1982]

On last maintenance battery was replaced at dealer under warranty, the new one is larger, they said is better for quicker startups, but now I dont know if this is going to cause problem in the future, I dont do offroad, just city driving, but this streets are far from smooth,


Actually is larger than tray

[leethal1]

Toyota probably don't want anyone to know about them because it will be seen as an admission that there is a problem.

I would be happy if they sold them as re-enforcement kits to protect them selves from admitting fault.

[sleeky5]

Toyota probably don't want anyone to know about them because it will be seen as an admission that there is a problem.

[krypto]

It is an official Toyota patch which is why it fits perfectly, the bolts don't weaken the guard provided the holes are drilled correctly and rust proofed. The whole thing feels rock solid. Would take forever to make one yourself.

It's also the first one fitted so maybe that's why it's not commonly known, but can't see why Toyota wouldn't be happy to sell them. Will post a part number if I can find it.