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EGR blanking plate to block off or restrict?
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Originally posted by Grumpy View PostThanks ####. After 32 years working on trucks I have a bad habit of over tightening things on smaller vehicles, so I try to use a torque wrench on things when I can.
3/8 drive for the rest of the job.
Penrite copper anti seize helps bolts go in a bit easier & out next time
I also use it to stick the 2 10mm nuts in socket, egr cooler to head to save dropping them.
Have fun
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Hi Rusty and ####,
No I didn't remove the power steering pump bolts or remove the reservoir though now you say it seems obvious. I did wonder about that common rail plug but was fearful of breaking it so stay well away. I intend to clean out the EGR valve and surrounds when I have a bit more time. At least I have slowed down the decline for the moment.
Cheers
Colin
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Originally posted by cbm8880 View PostIs a long hard highway run (110kmh for 10 hrs, followed by a 45 steep hill climb up the snowies, then another 10 hrs on the freeway enough to help clean out the EGR? I'm going to fit a catchcan, restrict or plate and clean the EGR once it is out of warranty, but would prefer to do it the old fashioned way until then.
Thoughts from experienced mechs?
Thanks.
Generally no, on the highway 110 egr is partially open. The hill climb will keep it fairly closed.
You want to stop the soot ASAP.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EGR-Blank...-/191680335579
From what I can see, the more Pcv moisture/oil the better, it seems to be washing them out.
Could be wrong but seems to be a pattern.
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Originally posted by Anth120playdo View PostNote: they all vary.
Generally no, on the highway 110 egr is partially open. The hill climb will keep it fairly closed.
You want to stop the soot ASAP.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EGR-Blank...-/191680335579
From what I can see, the more Pcv moisture/oil the better, it seems to be washing them out.
Could be wrong but seems to be a pattern.
Either way it is a bugger to clean. Now have the 7mm restrictor plate so time will tell.
Rusty.08 VX D4D, Lift, Safari Snorkle, Trailblazer Fridge, Custom Storeage System, BFG, ARB Safari Bar, Wife, Kids, Codan NGT HF Radio, Debt.
06 100 Series Sahara, Bilteins, Kings, Beaudesert 3", Diff drop, Unichip Q4, Safari Intercooler, EGR delete, 20ft Bushtracker, Codan Envoy more coming.
Sometimes i wake up Grumpy, most times i leave her sleep.
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Originally posted by Rusty62 View PostHaving cleaned the EGR and manifold twice now first time at 150000 no catch can. The soot was like tar in the manifold. Second time after the injector fail and catch can the soot was more 'fluffy'. Recently cleaned just the EGR and soot was again fluffy. Seems the oil from the PCV solidifies the soot to a smooth tar like texture.
Either way it is a bugger to clean. Now have the 7mm restrictor plate so time will tell.
Rusty.
So even with a catch can the soot was still there?
When it's dry & fluffy thats when it's more abrasive.
I think thin tar is one of the better outcomes, like this
210,000k
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Soot was still present with catch can with standard EGR. Was thicker than pre catch can but instead of thick tar was fluffy soot.
Didn't take any pics (sorry) of the fluffy soot.
Just had a look at the pics i took when the motor was out after running the catch can for 50000 km was thick tar, now with the new engine and the same catch can the soot was fluffy. Why different this time i don't know.
08 VX D4D, Lift, Safari Snorkle, Trailblazer Fridge, Custom Storeage System, BFG, ARB Safari Bar, Wife, Kids, Codan NGT HF Radio, Debt.
06 100 Series Sahara, Bilteins, Kings, Beaudesert 3", Diff drop, Unichip Q4, Safari Intercooler, EGR delete, 20ft Bushtracker, Codan Envoy more coming.
Sometimes i wake up Grumpy, most times i leave her sleep.
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EGR Clean
Ok so I finally got around to that EGR clean.
Dirty, Dirty job did I say DIRTY.
First wear disposable surgical type gloves because this stuff goes everywhere.
Second tip when reassembling put all the bolts in loose first then tightening as some of the latter ones may not connect if your tighten too soon (yes much undoing).
Flexi head ratchet spanners are a blessing as is your socket flexi joint (knuckle).
I bought two cans of carby cleaner but only used one (totally).
I had carbon right down into the inlet manifold which I scraped and vacuumed out as best I could.
How do I best deal with this pull the whole inlet manifold out?
Cheers
Colin
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Hi Colin,
How many K's had your car done?Prado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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Stripped mine down today (20000k's, 80/20 city/rural, no towing). I didn't get a chance to take photos, but probably fairly similar to Rusty62's photos. #### was spot on regards timing, just under 5 hours. Probably quicker for those that don't suffer from fat finger sindrome.Aug 14 150 GXL D4D Auto. BFG KO2's. Hi flow muffler. 7mm EGR restrictor plate.Bushman fridge.
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Originally posted by Coolcol View PostOk so I finally got around to that EGR clean.
Dirty, Dirty job did I say DIRTY.
First wear disposable surgical type gloves because this stuff goes everywhere.
Second tip when reassembling put all the bolts in loose first then tightening as some of the latter ones may not connect if your tighten too soon (yes much undoing).
Flexi head ratchet spanners are a blessing as is your socket flexi joint (knuckle).
I bought two cans of carby cleaner but only used one (totally).
I had carbon right down into the inlet manifold which I scraped and vacuumed out as best I could.
How do I best deal with this pull the whole inlet manifold out?
Cheers
Colin
Yours was a pretty bad one. Generally it's limited to the back of the manifold.
I find by the end of your fingertips, not much left, maybe 1-2mm thick.
Not worth the extra work to pull manifold off usually. But hard to say from here.
Some get so carried away, they pull the head off & send that or a clean as well
Originally posted by Grumpy View PostStripped mine down today (20000k's, 80/20 city/rural, no towing). I didn't get a chance to take photos, but probably fairly similar to Rusty62's photos. #### was spot on regards timing, just under 5 hours. Probably quicker for those that don't suffer from fat finger sindrome.
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A few days of driving after all my cleaning and the car is defiantly more responsive in low acceleration. I have also notice a drop in fuel consumption I would estimate at this point (less than half a tank) somewhere around .25 to .5 a liter per hundred. Just feels more lively, the "Oh what a feeling" is returning.
Cheers, Col
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So for those that have installed the restrictor (7mm) plate. Did you find it to be "more lively" and/or better economy? Im trying to decide whether to do one or both once it comes out of warranty. 2010 GX 3.0TD.2010 Prado GX 3.0L TD - "Paul" - TJM XGS 40mm Lift Kit, Firestone Coilrite Airbags, 5000kg Rated Front Recovery Points, Sure Power Battery Isolator and Dual Battery Setup, Airtec Snorkel, HID High Beam Headlights.
2008 Jayco Dove Outback - "Davo"
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