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  • Automatic Gearbox Trouble

    Hi All,

    I'm new to this site and using these forums so apologies in advance if this is inappropriately long. I'm looking for a bit of advice. My 1999 Landcruiser Prado was imported from Japan into Ireland by it's previous owner. I've had it for 7 years and it's become part of the family. It's in great condition, and only has 250,000 Km on the clock. It has been fully serviced and had everything done that needed doing in a Toyota main dealer - the plan being to keep it for years as we live half way up a mountain and I need a 4X4. In an effort to be a bit greener when I got it I had it converted to run on rape seed oil, but currently don't run it on oil as supply became a bit of a problem. The advantage of the particular engine being that it can run on 100% diesel, 100% rape seed oil or any combination of both all in the one tank. Now I just can't contemplate having to give up on it - it feels like abandoning it and it's been such a great war horse.

    It's VIN starts with KZJ950 if that information helps.

    A bit of history: in January of this year the cooling system for the gearbox failed and it over heated resulting in gearbox fluid and radiator water mixing and leaking out of it (never a good mix!!). The gearbox was flushed out, all the coolant system replaced and all seemed hunky dory. In June it couldn't take off when in "Drive" so I used it as a "semi" automatic and manually selected "2" to start and once it was rolling changed to Drive and all was well. The problem was an external solenoid which was then replaced.

    Currently there is a problem with the automatic gearbox. Basically when it has been driving for a long time (more than 1 hr ) or driving hard over a short period it feels like there is no power in it. For all the world it's like a manual gearbox when the clutch is slipping. It's as if it is not switching down to the lower gears - pardon my ignorance here if that concept is incorrect with an automatic gearbox. If I pull over and open the bonnet and let it cool down it will then have enough traction to move up gradients. On a test trip home a few weeks ago I was luck to do 30km per hour on the off ramp of the motorway!!!

    The plan had been to get a second hand gearbox fitted and I had sourced one and had it delivered to my mechanic. Unfortunately since it's a Japanese import I'm told there is a slight difference in the box. In Europe the low gears are controlled by a cable while in the Japanese models they are controlled electronically - again pardon my ignorance. This meant that the only option was to get the current gearbox repaired.

    So far the automatic gearbox specialist has taken it and driven it. Left it run in his yard so that it's warm and then driven it and it hasn't showed any signs of the problem. He doesn't want to take the gearbox out until he knows what's happening so he has an idea where to start troubleshooting.

    What I'm looking for is inspiration on what to do next. Any ideas as to what is wrong with the gearbox? Does anybody know of a reliable 4X4 breakers in the UK where I'd be likely to get a Japanese Prado model gearbox if the simplest thing would be to just replace the box? I feel I just can't abandon it yet without putting in some effort to save it.

    All advice welcome and thanks in advance.

    Josephine Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

  • #2
    Take it for a run get it to play up then drop in on the auto gearbox repairer and
    show him
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    • #3
      I'm no transmission expert but I'd say during the original failure, contaminants entered the transmission and stayed there, causing faster heat up and possibly wear. Key points could be valve bodies or torque converter. A successful transmission overhaul is going to be quite expensive and a bit of a lottery.

      If you're keen to keep the vehicle I'd recommend replacing the transmission. Most posters here are in Australia so can't help with your local suppliers (for UK go here: http://www.tlocuk.co.uk). I do know an Australian wrecker who already sends heavy engines overseas, and has some transmissions lying around, so perhaps they can send to you. Question is, will yours take the Australian version transmission?

      My PETROL automatic transmission is controlled electronically. Anyone know if the diesels are too? My petrol auto is model A343F. Do you know what your model is?

      If you need it mobile whilst waiting for a replacement then a possible work around maybe to install an additional transmission cooler in line with the radiator one. Cooler temps may reduce frequency of issues... but knowing you're in cold UK I'm not overly confident of this!
      glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LeighW View Post
        Take it for a run get it to play up then drop in on the auto gearbox repairer and
        show him
        great idea
        glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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        • #5
          my 2001 tx auto is electronic i will have a look at the model when im out side tomorow

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          • #6
            The cable box is for "line presure" it tells the box how hard to shift gears
            Prado diesel boxes were all cable untill 99 (facelift) then they were all full electronic no matter where there are from
            I'd try putting new oil in again
            I'm pretty sure (but don't hold me to it) the internals are the same
            An box from a hilux surf is the same 93-99 are all cable 99 onwards are electronic
            As long as it's from a diesel
            Autos are hydraulic so water through the oil has probly cooked it
            Also are you still running the factory oil cooler?

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            • #7
              Hi All,

              Thanks for the advice. I'm going to talk to another auto gearbox specialist in Ireland who advertises on the TLOC site. I'm hoping he has a special interest in Land cruisers and will be my knight in shining armour!!!

              I'll keep you posted.

              Kind regards,

              Josephine

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