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Thanks Russ. Unfortunately I can't view lcool forum threads as I don't have an account. I have given up tring to register. I tried about half a dozen times over the course of a few moths and haven't been able to get the registration approved by an admin. I don't know if my email address looks dodgy or if I answered the spambot questions incorrectly.
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[B]Declan[/B]: [SIZE=1]1997 GXL 4.5 Auto 80 series on [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], ARB bullbar, 2" OME lift, 32" MTZ, GME UHF, rear ARB locker, Kaymar spare wheel carrier[/SIZE]
[B]PLANNED[/B]: [SIZE=1]3 or 4" suspension lift, 2" body lift (maybe), winch, 35" MTZ + roadies, front locker, sliders, cylinder head rebuilt for [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], Garret [COLOR="#4499ff"][B]Turbocharger[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] -
i can't get to icool either ,and you know im a computer guru .03 grande v6 , with added stuff that makes it go places . RTFM people !
founding member of the " you don't need all that crap on a prado association "
"you only use 15% of your brain " Einstein . " so why not burn off the other 85% " Cheech & Chong .
petrol , petrol ,petrol , you know it makes sense ! im kavpetrolbitchComment
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Declan I will summaries it
1997 40th annversy 80s 4.5 auto 104000km 2"lift, dual battery,compressor etc,22500 ono photos don,t do justice
Located adelaide but looks ok white
Ph no trent 0419842792New 2015 150s GX 5 seater with floor mats, towbar and a big wish list
Previously a 2004 120s 1KZ GX silver manual with stuff
before that a 1996 RV6 90S with lots of gearComment
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I was on lcool before pradopoint started,Originally posted by kav View PostNew 2015 150s GX 5 seater with floor mats, towbar and a big wish list
Previously a 2004 120s 1KZ GX silver manual with stuff
before that a 1996 RV6 90S with lots of gearComment
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I registered in LCOOL forum and it was very easy with processing in a very short time. I don't think they need any special thing, just may be your web browser needs to be checked/refreshed.
IMO, if I change from Prado to LC, i will stick with Diesel Turbo only (factory is first, after market Turbo is second choice).Last edited by light5light; 10-02-2012, 10:32 PM.James
- Manual RV 97 3.4 Petrol
2" TD-BFG KM2 265/75/16-Dual battery-Maxtrax-Hi Lift Jack-DVD Kenwood 6.1"-12.1" sunvisor LCD x 2-9" headrest LCD x 2-9" HID 100W internal ballast x 6-HID headlight-Air pump in engine bay-Uniden 7760NB-Roof rack TJM-Roof boxComment
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Can'o'worms = opened. Believe it or not, I have actually considered all the options.Originally posted by light5light View Post
As far as I'm concerned, the non-turbo Diesel 1HZ would be unbearable to drive after having owned a Petrol 90 series. I have not driven one yet (as the dealer couldn't even start the one I went to look at), but considering that even the Petrol 80 is noticeably slower than my Petrol 90, I am certain that the 1HZ would be an absolute slug. Its torque and power figures look completely gutless on paper. It is also $5000-6000 more expensive than a Petrol of the same age/ks etc
I think the 1HD-T would be only tolerable (compared to the Petrol), the low rpm toruqe would handle towing better than the Petrol and it has the lowest fuel bill any of the three engines.
The 1FZ-FE (4.5 petrol) has way more power than either of the other two engines and actually has more torque than both (at higher rpms) and has the highest fuel usage. From my research, all else being equal, you will pay roughly $12,000 more for a 1HD-T of the same age/kms etc. $12K is a lot of fuel and mods as far as I'm concerned.
Also one needs to consider that if they absolutely need the fuel range and towing performance of the 1HD-T (which I don't) that there are, at the time of writing this post, 40 factory Turbo Diesel 80s available on carsales.com.au and there are 159 Petrol 80s. Sure there are other websites to look for cars, but I think its a pretty good indication of how many more Petrols there are to choose from. Given how many Petrol 80s I've looked at now to find a good one, I think you'll have your work cut out trying to find a good TD.[B]Declan[/B]: [SIZE=1]1997 GXL 4.5 Auto 80 series on [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], ARB bullbar, 2" OME lift, 32" MTZ, GME UHF, rear ARB locker, Kaymar spare wheel carrier[/SIZE]
[B]PLANNED[/B]: [SIZE=1]3 or 4" suspension lift, 2" body lift (maybe), winch, 35" MTZ + roadies, front locker, sliders, cylinder head rebuilt for [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], Garret [COLOR="#4499ff"][B]Turbocharger[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]Comment
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Good reference Declan, actually i had to say "IMO" with last reply, because I am using a caravan around 2T when full loads. With my current 90s, nothing is wrong or slow except crawling up hill.
I did also spent time to find out sth (also did come to Minchinbury one time for a test of Turbo LC 100). A good TD 100series now will cost no less than or around $30k for a reasonable good one at good mileage and condition. Comparing with Petrol, actually it will be a quite clear comparison as you made ~$12k or even more, but that's different story
Good luck on finding the right one.James
- Manual RV 97 3.4 Petrol
2" TD-BFG KM2 265/75/16-Dual battery-Maxtrax-Hi Lift Jack-DVD Kenwood 6.1"-12.1" sunvisor LCD x 2-9" headrest LCD x 2-9" HID 100W internal ballast x 6-HID headlight-Air pump in engine bay-Uniden 7760NB-Roof rack TJM-Roof boxComment
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Good find there Russ, I tried to rejoin Lcool again last night, after attempting to change my email address with them nearly 5 years ago (& was promptly locked out), & received the confirmation email from them this morningOriginally posted by rags View Post
That 80 series looks to be in great condition, shame it's in Adelaide.
Yes trying to get an 80 with factory turbo in good condition won't be easy but you never know....I suspect there are plenty of people keeping an eye out for you Declan
Good luck with the searching......Cheers,
Glenn
2002 GXL 3.4 auto with BFG AT's, Lovell's/Bilstein suspension, ARB steel bullbar, winch, towbar, diff lock, air compressor, GME UHF & AM CB radios.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/user/gh4wd?feature=mhum][b]Youtube[/b][/url] [url=http://www.panoramio.com/user/2941589][b]Panoramio[/b][/url]Comment
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Hi Declan, presume you dont want me to come with you to have a look as the yard closes at 5pm ??? SteveFace lift 150 Prado V6 auto. No mods yetComment
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HOLD FAST declan , toyota PETROL auto all the way , don't let them suck you into the vortex , don't succumb to the dark side . i feel a disturbance in the force . " the force is strong , but stronger you are . " ( "yoda ", not yota ).Last edited by kav; 11-02-2012, 10:27 PM. Reason: succumb appears twice but won't let me edit it out03 grande v6 , with added stuff that makes it go places . RTFM people !
founding member of the " you don't need all that crap on a prado association "
"you only use 15% of your brain " Einstein . " so why not burn off the other 85% " Cheech & Chong .
petrol , petrol ,petrol , you know it makes sense ! im kavpetrolbitchComment
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I can't make that promise kav. If I see a HDJ80R at the right price (read: same price as a Petrol - not gonna happen) then I'll buy it, purely for the fuel savings, but I'm not going to pay $12k more for said fuel savings.
I'm entirely open minded about the transmission. Auto is preferred as I'll be using it mainly for rock crawling but if I find a manual in good condition I wont turn it down, I'll just have to get extra high diff ratios (5.29:1 maybe).
As hard as it is for you to hear this kav, I am open to the idea of a GQ or GU patrol but under no circumstances will I buy a 3.0 TD Patrol (same goes for the Toyota CRD engines for that matter)[B]Declan[/B]: [SIZE=1]1997 GXL 4.5 Auto 80 series on [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], ARB bullbar, 2" OME lift, 32" MTZ, GME UHF, rear ARB locker, Kaymar spare wheel carrier[/SIZE]
[B]PLANNED[/B]: [SIZE=1]3 or 4" suspension lift, 2" body lift (maybe), winch, 35" MTZ + roadies, front locker, sliders, cylinder head rebuilt for [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], Garret [COLOR="#4499ff"][B]Turbocharger[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]Comment
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I wouldn't write of the 3.0TD Patrol's entirely. GU IV's seem to ok, but anything older, just make sure you've got the cash for a V8 LS1 or LS2Originally posted by williade View Post
glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90Comment
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Agreed, the later 3.0 is ok. I think mid 04 up is fine, however the engine by that stage already had the bad reputation and people still think they are bad therefore prices are down when they shouldn't be.Originally posted by glen_ep View PostI wouldn't write of the 3.0TD Patrol's entirely. GU IV's seem to ok, but anything older, just make sure you've got the cash for a V8 LS1 or LS2
I would buy an early petrol one and do a swap for the TD42T, but that's just me. You can't beat that low down torque, no need for a ratio change.
BenComment
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I'm heading to Barrington Tops this weekend for 3 days camping if anyone is interested, Fri-Sun, 17-19th. So far it's my 4x4 plus 2 mates on dirt bikes.glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90Comment
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would be keen just depends on what happens with these wheels and if i get them on time150 prado V6, yokies 32"s, bullbar, towbar, 2" lift, snorkel, diff breathers, e.r.p, winch, 14"s of lcd...hummm now whatComment
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