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  • #136
    Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

    Originally posted by Crammy
    The Kings have removed a lot of roll that I experienced with the ridepros.
    I experienced exactly the same thing Crammy, the body roll with the Ridepros was horrible but that was fixed with installing the Polyairs, thank goodness. Before the Poly's she was rolling like an over laden barge on a 3 foot swell.
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    • #137
      Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

      Originally posted by pradogxlv6
      Originally posted by Darren C
      Hey guys,this is my 1st post so i hope its in the right place! I will be putting a 2'lift in my 04 GX very soon and after studying all your forums,I think the general opinion is the Darren McRaigh Billstein/Lovell set up is the best way to go but as it has been a long time coming,I just wanted to know if there was any new combinations or opinions etc.before I fork out the hard earned! Its my wifes car when Im not using it, :lol: I live in Lake Macquarie near Newcastle,looking for an installer/supplier in this area familiar with Darrens set up.Any feedback would be appreciated.
      P.S. great site guys,have learnt alot and like you guys have a passion for my Prado.She doesnt love it like I do! : :lol:
      thanks Darren C.
      Darren,

      See my rig for suspension details...http://pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2811

      Cheers,
      Nice Matt,I see you went Ridepro springs not Lovells,any paticular reason? I noticed in the early posts ATS used Billstein/Lovells.
      04 GX V6,Billstein/Ridepro 2''lift,Polyairs,7.5''alloys,Cooper STs,GME 3220 UHF,MIO GPS,TJM portable compresser,
      Sovereign alloy bullbar,Toyota towbar/steps.

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      • #138
        Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

        Originally posted by mav
        Originally posted by Crammy
        The Kings have removed a lot of roll that I experienced with the ridepros.
        I experienced exactly the same thing Crammy, the body roll with the Ridepros was horrible but that was fixed with installing the Polyairs, thank goodness. Before the Poly's she was rolling like an over laden barge on a 3 foot swell.
        I found that the ATS setup didn't roll as much as the standard suspension but still enough to have passengers grab the jesus bar as you go around a round about. I was going to put the polys in like you mav but was advised to put the right spring in rather than rely on the poly airs, hence the Kings springs. I also had firestones fitted whilst the springs were out.

        With the mods I've done the car sits perfect now and the softer ridepros in the front still have some give whilst the kings firm it up in the back without going too heavy duty.

        Original heights

        Front: 770mm (Top circlip position)
        Rear: 800mm (Full tank juice, no air bags and no other weight in the back)

        Front: 790mm (4th circlip machined 10mm above highest existing, 60mm of droop)
        Rear: 820mm (Kings with full tank of juice, firestones at 5 PSI)

        Cheers,

        Crammy
        2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
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        • #139
          Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

          [quote=Darren C][quote=pradogxlv6]
          Originally posted by Darren C":1c3njtyo]Hey guys,this is my 1st post so i hope its in the right place! I will be putting a 2'lift in my 04 GX very soon and after studying all your forums,I think the general opinion is the Darren McRaigh Billstein/Lovell set up is the best way to go but as it has been a long time coming,I just wanted to know if there was any new combinations or opinions etc.before I fork out the hard earned! Its my wifes car when Im not using it, :lol: I live in Lake Macquarie near Newcastle,looking for an installer/supplier in this area familiar with Darrens set up.Any feedback would be appreciated.
          P.S. great site guys,have learnt alot and like you guys have a passion for my Prado.She doesnt love it like I do! : :lol:
          thanks Darren C.[/quote]

          Darren,

          See my rig for suspension details...[url="http://pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2811
          http://pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2811[/url]

          Cheers,
          Nice Matt,I see you went Ridepro springs not Lovells,any paticular reason? I noticed in the early posts ATS used Billstein/Lovells.[/quote:1c3njtyo]
          Thanks for your input mate,will speak to Darren,seems KINGS on the back may be another option.Where do i find out about PP outings?
          04 GX V6,Billstein/Ridepro 2''lift,Polyairs,7.5''alloys,Cooper STs,GME 3220 UHF,MIO GPS,TJM portable compresser,
          Sovereign alloy bullbar,Toyota towbar/steps.

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          • #140
            Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

            The body roll is a sway bar/shock controlled item, morte than coil rate.

            There are intermediate and heavy duty coils,a s wella s polyairs, depending on if you have 50-150kg constant load, or 200-300kg constant load, etc.

            You make the car heigher, it has a higher COG and wants to lean more, as you corner harder [yes you do, it feels safer, so your corner speed automaticlaly goes up, when good suspension fitted, this is why we had to go outside spec to wheel alignemnt settings, to prevent the wear on the left front outer tyre edge, because everyone turns faster across an intersection turning right, than turniong left :wink: ]

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            • #141
              Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

              Hey all,
              Well ive finally joined the club! Got one of Darrens Billstein Platinum packages installed on Wednesday by the boys at ARB Newcastle,thanks to them(no affiliation).A big thanks to Darren McRaigh for his help(made quite a few phone calls to him with questions and he always took the time to talk to me),and a thank you to Hayesy who did the same.Im stoked with the height etc and the ride on road and look forward to testing it out on the beach and up the bush!
              Thanks to pradopoint,fantastic source of unbiased info to research different products!
              Daz
              04 GX V6,Billstein/Ridepro 2''lift,Polyairs,7.5''alloys,Cooper STs,GME 3220 UHF,MIO GPS,TJM portable compresser,
              Sovereign alloy bullbar,Toyota towbar/steps.

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              • #142
                Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                Good onya Daz.

                Mate, this place is never a disappointment!

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                • #143
                  Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                  Anyone find a problem with the Bilstein supplied rubbers and the big hole in the rear mounting bracket?

                  The Bilstein setup doesn't appear to be too secure. The stock shock rubber fills the hole completely.
                  Dave
                  Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
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                  • #144
                    Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                    we use the factory ones where we can.

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                    • #145
                      Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                      Four failures ain't just a coincidence.

                      Be interesting to hear whether anyone else has experienced anything catastrophically similar, now that many have some serious miles under their belts.

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                      • #146
                        Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                        As I posted to the other thread:

                        That sounds like it's time for them to be serviced!

                        You know that Bilstein shocks (and a few other brands like Koni) are repairable, don't you? Is the 4wd workshop you took it to trying to sell you new suspension?

                        Take it back to the Bilstein dealer, you might be surprised at the result...

                        Michael

                        MODs should delete the other thread...
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                        • #147
                          Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                          Yes someone hasnt read the rules.

                          Also seems awfully coincidental to a certain ex employer who has a beef with a certain ex employee from Geelong.

                          Something doesnt add up.. :roll:

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                          • #148
                            Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                            Edit: Removed. Irrelevant without the original posts

                            Michael
                            2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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                            • #149
                              Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                              irrelevant with original post removed
                              Bevan
                              Former - 04 TD GXL, Now 2010 LC200 TD
                              Tassie

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                              • #150
                                Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

                                I see I was spot on. All very cryptic and after your PM it explains why.

                                Please note this forum is not the place to settle grievances, and it will not be tolerated. Seeing as your "issue" is apparently in the Police and courts hands, it is suggested that this is not the place to be discussing it. All 3 parties apparently involved visit here, so remember it IS a public forum.
                                Further posts of that nature that may cross the line may be deleted and holidays given. We dont need the trouble

                                This also goes for people that decide that the public have a free speech recognition without knowing all the facts or the entire situation. We dont piss around here anymore after a couple of legal issues already brought on by people posting things similar to this. Again, holidays from here are free...

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