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  • #181
    Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

    Originally posted by dustie
    Originally posted by IRON-PAWW
    You think those ARB bars would be much heavier than the Toyota alloy bars? I dunno... there's a bit of steelwork in behind the Sovereign where the winch fittings etc are. ...
    The ARB Steel bar is about 4kgs heavier than the Alloy bar.
    I'm not sure where the 4kgs comes from, but that is about 20kgs off the mark . The Sovereign bar is around half the weight of the ARB bars.

    Toyota Spare Parts state the Sovereign bar (including steel mounts) weighs 25kgs. From ARB, the Deluxe and Sahara bars are similar weight at ~50kgs.

    LFaR.
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    • #182
      Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

      Originally posted by LiveFreeAndRoam
      I'm not sure where the 4kgs comes from, but that is about 20kgs off the mark . The Sovereign bar is around half the weight of the ARB bars.

      Toyota Spare Parts state the Sovereign bar (including steel mounts) weighs 25kgs. From ARB, the Deluxe and Sahara bars are similar weight at ~50kgs.

      LFaR.
      The winch cradle for a soveriegn weighs 26kg. So once that is fitted (only required if your intending to put a winch in) the soveriegn and ARB bars are a similar weight.

      Leachy
      EX-Prado Owner

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      • #183
        Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

        Can someone confirm if by moving the "Circlip" to the top slot makes the spring compress tighter? and will the ride be stiffer?

        If you want further lift in the front, see link below.

        http://72.34.32.141/~snakerac/index.php ... b8729b84cf

        You can get 120 Prado 25mm or 35mm Front Coil Strut Spacer
        Cheers,
        Dustie

        Self confessed PP addict!! hmm.. now thats not a bad habit is it......

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        • #184
          Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

          Hey all,
          just wanted to give this Auto Craft package a good wrap,
          i have to say best money i ever spent. It has totally transformed my GX,on road the Prado handles heaps better round corners than standard,off road shes a different truck! The ride is firmer but takes the jolt out of the rough stuff resulting in a smoother ride,the extra height takes me to/through places it would never have gone (i like to cautiously test its limits),and with a good set of tyres (Cooper STs) i cant believe the difference! Although i cant compare the Billstein/Medium Ridepro package to any other package,i certainly cant fault it and would recommend it! I went with the MEDIUM Ridepros because its a shopping trolley during the week and a 4WD on the W/E and is the perfect compromise! In saying that i do some serious off road work and couldnt be happier! My 2 cents,
          Daz.
          04 GX V6,Billstein/Ridepro 2''lift,Polyairs,7.5''alloys,Cooper STs,GME 3220 UHF,MIO GPS,TJM portable compresser,
          Sovereign alloy bullbar,Toyota towbar/steps.

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          • #185
            Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

            Yeah you certainly notice the difference. Cornering is certainly better. I still get some lean but I guess you always will with high center of gravity vehicles. Gunned it over a series of speed bumps the other day as a simple test and was really quite impressed at the difference over the standard suspension. The main force of the jolts I was expecting were mostly absorbed, whereas before I'd bounce around more if I did this. Smaller undulations in the road I think I feel more now, due to the stiffer build over the standard suspension. But it's being pretty picky and I think I prefer the firmer ride anyhow as that's more what I'm used to. I can see plain as day though that this setup will really shine on rough, harsher terrain. Now to go and find some.......
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            • #186
              Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

              Originally posted by dustie
              Can someone confirm if by moving the "Circlip" to the top slot makes the spring compress tighter? and will the ride be stiffer?

              If you want further lift in the front, see link below.

              http://72.34.32.141/~snakerac/index.php ... b8729b84cf

              You can get 120 Prado 25mm or 35mm Front Coil Strut Spacer
              BE careful using these, and longer shocks, and lifted coils, as there has been afew with the driveshafts coming out of the diff with all the extra down travel these spacers allow on top of the rest.

              Moving the circlip will change the ride height, but not the spring rate. Ride wont chnage, only ride height [12mm per groove]

              You need to maintain a minimum of 60mm of droop in the front.

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              • #187
                Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                Darren's a bloody genius - those of us who have had anything to do with him will wholeheartedly attest to that.

                Keep up the good work, mate!

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                • #188
                  Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                  Thanks for that.

                  We do try to ensure the total sum is what customers want, and need.

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                  • #189
                    Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                    Just ordered my Bilstein setup today and have gone with the Polyairs as well.
                    CAN'T WAIT! :P

                    Cheers,
                    AJ
                    [i][size=2][color=#008000]2008 D4D GXL Auto [/color]- [u]BLACK[/u][/size]
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                    • #190
                      Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                      You won't be disappointed!
                      Mike
                      2005 GXL V6 Auto
                      8 years of modifications

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                      • #191
                        Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                        Originally posted by AJ
                        Just ordered my Bilstein setup today and have gone with the Polyairs as well.
                        CAN'T WAIT! :P

                        Cheers,
                        AJ
                        It left yesterday, so it will all be over there ready to go, when you are. :wink:

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                        • #192
                          Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                          Now that I've had the Bilstein & Ridepro setup fitted a while and a few little trips under my belt I can honestly say that I'm extremely happy with the gear Darren has sent over. As I drive more, even around the big smoke, I can feel the Prado react differently to what it did with the standard suspension. A lot better, for me anyhow. Though the ride is stiffer, it is by far a lot better than I was expecting. Off road the story only gets better as I can now feel the difference between my Prado and deep sea fishing with a decent swell running. What's the right term, I dunno, but I'm no longer rocking all over the place when I go through washouts and a little uneven terrain. Nothing uber-serious yet but give me time. Might go the polyair (or similar) route too though for when I really need to load up. Not a single peep of complaint from any of the gear fitted. So cheers Darren and the Blokes at AutoCraft.

                          I'll tell you something funny. My mate noticed straight up. Never said a word about what I'd done but he noticed. Great minds think alike! My girlfriend though...... to this very day, has no idea about what I've done. Though she did comment about how well the Prado handled some washouts on a recent little trip we did. :mrgreen: So for those needing to convince the finance mistress...... Don't tell her!!!
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                          • #193
                            Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                            I am about to bastardise my RidePro - Bilstein set up.
                            I have the medium rated RidePro springs.
                            I have replaced the factory alloy bar with ARB bar and Warn winch and lost about 30mm of front lift in the process.
                            I am also about to depart on 3 month trip to Cape York and NT towing a 1200kg camper trailer, so I am replacing front and rear RidePros with HD OME springs.
                            Will let you know how it goes.

                            Cheers - Byrnsie

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                            • #194
                              Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                              Originally posted by Byrnsie
                              I am about to bastardise my RidePro - Bilstein set up.
                              I have the medium rated RidePro springs.
                              I have replaced the factory alloy bar with ARB bar and Warn winch and lost about 30mm of front lift in the process.
                              I am also about to depart on 3 month trip to Cape York and NT towing a 1200kg camper trailer, so I am replacing front and rear RidePros with HD OME springs.
                              Will let you know how it goes.

                              Cheers - Byrnsie
                              Are the current coils on the top circlip groove now ?

                              If not, why not just move it up, you will gain 15mm per groove.

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                              • #195
                                Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

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