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  • #61
    I had been keeping an eye on this thread hoping you might get a good resolution. For the cost of a set of springs, which are relatively cheap, I can't understand why they don't just get a new set for you, then explain any conditions they have on the install, ride height etc.

    I wouldn't be too worried about the packer, I had to use them in my Patrol at various times (I tried 6 different sets of springs before I was semi happy)to even things up, and you wouldn't even know they are there and soon forget about them.

    For piece of mind though, I'd be inclined to take up Jason's offer of a set of Kings at cost and try them out. You can fit them at home in about an hour, pretty easy job to do.

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    • #62
      Not sure where they get he idea that a 120 can only handle 25mm lift, 50mm is fine, once you go over that you need to do other things.

      I also would have thought that quoted lift should be above standard, not above what you had. My first 120 the suspension had sagged 50mm before I upgraded, based on a 25mm lift over that measurement I would have been below standard!

      The spacer is probably fine, but I wouldn't have thought it was common practice to fit them for leveling, but to fit them in pairs for a bit extra lift.

      Cheers Andrew
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      • #63
        Spacer vs warranty

        Originally posted by AJ120 View Post
        Not sure where they get he idea that a 120 can only handle 25mm lift, 50mm is fine, once you go over that you need to do other things.

        I also would have thought that quoted lift should be above standard, not above what you had. My first 120 the suspension had sagged 50mm before I upgraded, based on a 25mm lift over that measurement I would have been below standard!

        The spacer is probably fine, but I wouldn't have thought it was common practice to fit them for leveling, but to fit them in pairs for a bit extra lift.


        Cheers Andrew
        Good point AJ I was only looking at it from my height just before lift. I asked and he said he would not install spacers in both sides, only in one side to level, hence why they call them trim packers instead of spacers. I guess if my suspension was looked at before quoting what I needed it may have helped . I new absolutely knew nothing about suspension when I bought it. A lot more informed now thanks to all on PP. Bloke also disagreed that 885,s would be the correct coil for the front even if I had a winch(future addition which was mentioned to be allowed for when originally choosing coils) as apparently I need 150+ kg on the front to warrant this and my front lift with 885's would be around 60mm.
        Matt

        Edit. Also spacers up to 15mm are legal I'm told
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        • #64
          can you swap the rear springs left to right and see what it does to the heights
          i brought a s/hand set and they were not marked L or R, when i fitted them the rear looked odd, so i swapped them over and it did change it slightly
          2008 Dune D4D manual GXL update - with lots of fruit !! + Roma Razorback Off Road Van

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          • #65
            Originally posted by AJ120 View Post

            I also would have thought that quoted lift should be above standard, not above what you had. My first 120 the suspension had sagged 50mm before I upgraded, based on a 25mm lift over that measurement I would have been below standard!



            Cheers Andrew
            I was just reading their fine print on OME lifts for the 120 and it reads that the quoted lifts of 25mm front and 40mm rear lift is above the original height so I guess they interpret original height as the height before lift, not standard height. If it was standard height maybe they would have wanted to look at what my current heights were before quoting me 2k to have this "correct" suspension installed. So yes of your front had sagged 50mm and was lifted 25mm as per quote this would be deemed ok as it was 25mm from original height .
            Matt
            2008 120 GX D4D with a few extras
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            • #66
              No the original height should be interpreted as the height of a brand new vehicle. Otherwise there is no benchmark for comparison if the comparison is to the current height just before lift.

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              • #67
                That would be logical , height of brand new vehicle plus taking into consideration extra weight added equals min new lift height
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                • #68
                  Yeah that sounds right. Is original height 750 front and 780 back?


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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by BlakMoth View Post
                    Yeah that sounds right. Is original height 750 front and 780 back?


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                    Yep, those should be original measurements.

                    Cheers Andrew
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                    • #70
                      Goodo. From memory mine is sitting at 785/820 so 10 higher in the front than what's advertised.




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                      • #71
                        Hi Blake how is your ride in the rear with no weight on the car. I believe I should have had the 885 coils in the front . You have a winch and still sits higher. I wonder how different stores choose different setups. Queensland manager is adamant that 885,s would give me way too much lift and even though the OME suspension selectee chooses 885s with my weight plus future winch , he says this is incorrect.
                        Matt
                        2008 120 GX D4D with a few extras
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                        • #72
                          It's pretty comfy Matty. No problems, touch wood


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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by BlakMoth View Post
                            Goodo. From memory mine is sitting at 785/820 so 10 higher in the front than what's advertised.




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                            I notice a "trim packer" if required, which I guess is the strut spacer Matt ended up with.

                            Cheers Andrew
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                            [url=http://www.4wdadventurers.com/showthread.php?3975-AJ-s-79-series-Cruiser-Ute]MY HZJ79 Landcrusier[/url]


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                            • #74
                              Yeah I guess it is. They didn't use one though.


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                              Blake

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by AJ120 View Post
                                I notice a "trim packer" if required, which I guess is the strut spacer Matt ended up with.

                                Cheers Andrew
                                Yes this was installed a year later when LHS had sagged. Rear coil free heights ok. Spring rate was assumed ok. Front not touched and 10mm spacer installed above RL coil
                                Matt
                                2008 120 GX D4D with a few extras
                                Rig build here
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