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  • #61
    you can go down the road of fitting up a drop cradle kit to the front, which gets a minimum 4-5" of lift, then you can go another 2" on top of that if you already have a 2" suspension lift now. then for the back, get some 5-6" coils from the states (cos no one does them in aus) either from a 4th gen 4runner, or even FJ's and maybe some coil spacers to suit if needed.

    not sure, but snake racing did a drop cradle kit for the lux with no cutting of the crossmember. if superior still do the BTV ones, i'm pretty sure they come with a replacement extended knuckle to suit the extra height.

    with the drop cradle kit, you shouldn't need upper control arms, as its almost like a body lift rather than a suspension lift.

    i looked into the pro comp drop cradle kit a year or so ago before i went 4". they are a bit more exxy, but a far better kit compared to the thai made ones.

    if you go with a drop cradle kit, you should be able to clear 35"s with a small amount of trimming on the plastic flaring in front and behind the tyres.
    SIK-120
    2008 Toyota Prado 120
    ...with a few bits and pieces on it...

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    • #62
      this is the link to the hilux kit. you only need the stuff for the front end.

      http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...oducts_id=8969

      also, if you don't want to cut too much plastic flaring, you can get a 1" or 2" body lift fitted. this will raise the body off the chassis, gaining a little more clearance to fit 35"s. these kits can be bought online from the states, or you can make them yourself. the most popular is the 1" kit, as there is enough thread length on the studs, especially if the prado's done a few kays, and the rubber compresses over time. there are only 8 main mounts with studs, and easy to get to, the only other ones to look out for are the support mounts under the rear cargo area.
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      Last edited by 8608; 13-02-2013, 09:40 PM. Reason: more info.
      SIK-120
      2008 Toyota Prado 120
      ...with a few bits and pieces on it...

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      • #63
        here's the link for the drop cradle fitting instructions. have a look and see how it all goes together.

        http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...20Repaired.pdf
        SIK-120
        2008 Toyota Prado 120
        ...with a few bits and pieces on it...

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        • #64
          I'm planning on fitting 37" on my prado, now where is me grinder.....

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          • #65
            Pussy, I am thinking about buying the company's 20 year old Tadano TR500EX and using those tyres.
            My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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            • #66
              Originally posted by mjrandom View Post
              Pussy, I am thinking about buying the company's 20 year old Tadano TR500EX and using those tyres.
              Those tyres are just too small!


              Get serious and just go for a set of Cat 797B 59/80R63 tyres instead!
              "Sure it’s quiet, for a diesel, but that’s like being well-behaved… for a murderer."- Jeremy Clarkson

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              • #67
                at appox. $35000 per tyre on the 797 a set of 4 would knock you back abit.
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                • #68
                  Haha thanks guys, not sure how my front wheel bearings and cv's would take the 59/80/63"

                  Nah but seriously, the amount of difference in opinion on here and on new hilux .net is amazing. For basically the same car amd issues with fitting bigger tyres (same front end with body mount etc) all them guys are keen to fit big tyres, heaps are running 305's even 315's and body lifts, even entertain that thought here and you get reamed...

                  Looks like I bought the wrong yota. Shoulda bought a lux I think I would fit in a bit better..
                  2004 Manual Turbo diesel 1KZ-TE , 5" lift , 37x12.5 BF Goodrich KM2

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Ghostriderhusky View Post

                    ... even entertain that thought here and you get reamed...
                    seriously? mate, by the sounds of it you DID pick the wrong yota.

                    i always keep a neutral attitude when i reply or offer my 2c, even if it comes accross the wrong way. i do not take sides, and i always speak of experience. if i don't know anything about whats being discussed in the topic, i do not reply.

                    i often get ignored on the newlux site because i have a prado. so how does that make anything different from your situation. all i do on newlux site is read. if i dare post anything about my prado, i get no responses, or something like "you can't do that to a Prado" even though you state the obvious that the two share the same front end almost.

                    if i need info, i look at new lux, but i keep to myself. at least we talk to you here and offer advice.

                    sorry if i've offended (or reamed) you about anything. thats not my style.
                    SIK-120
                    2008 Toyota Prado 120
                    ...with a few bits and pieces on it...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Ghostriderhusky View Post
                      Nah but seriously, the amount of difference in opinion on here and on new hilux .net is amazing. For basically the same car amd issues with fitting bigger tyres (same front end with body mount etc) all them guys are keen to fit big tyres, heaps are running 305's even 315's and body lifts, even entertain that thought here and you get reamed...

                      Looks like I bought the wrong yota. Shoulda bought a lux I think I would fit in a bit better..
                      They have a thread on Newhilux about fitting 33's, no one here has said not to go 33's just that its not quite as simple as throwing a set on with no other mods. Even with 33's on the lux's some guys are chopping body mounts, if you want to do that then go right ahead, why do you need the approval of a bunch of strangers on a forum?

                      I don't think you have been reamed here at all, you joked about scamming your insurance company, why would anyone condone that? This thread is about fitting 35's, we told you what you need to do in order to do it properly, but your budget doesn't stretch that far, so why would we condone doing it the wrong way?

                      I think a number of us have suggested you give this a go and tell us how your fare, given none of us have done it before and someone has to be the first and you want to do it, then why not do it and show us how its done?

                      I also note that you haven't posted in a tyre thread on newhilux, so how much support have you got over there?

                      Cheers Andrew
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                      • #71
                        Just another thought, of course the Lux owners are going to be more keen to fit larger tyres than a Prado owner. The Lux is not as capable to start with so they need a bit of extra help

                        Cheers Andrew
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                        • #72
                          Nah man you've been great and one of the few that has offered good advice and really pushed there prado to the limit, yeah hilux net is just for reading can't say much when I have a prado.. And we all know a prado is better anyways haha .. Who wants drum brakes and leaf springs and extra 400m in wheelbase length, just to put a canopy on it and make it a useless as a ute and half as good as a prado!
                          2004 Manual Turbo diesel 1KZ-TE , 5" lift , 37x12.5 BF Goodrich KM2

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                          • #73
                            If your really that keen, try All Pro in the States. They do long travel kits but it will increase your wheel track by 4". If you can find a wheel combination to bring that back to 2" increased track you'll be back within legal specs again, even so you'll still be out for height. I would expect there's a way to have it all engineered right up to the point of dealing with the VSC. At this stage this seems to be a "no-mans land" area with many mechanics, engineers and gov. departments on different pages. Hell if I had deep enough pockets I'd go all out, if only to piss off some Patrol drivers!

                            JMO. Cheers,
                            Dusty

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                            • #74
                              Ghostrider does your Prado have VSC? Under the NCOP you have much more flexibility with mods if you don't. You can get engineering approval with body lifts etc. That will go some way to getting the tyres in there somewhere.

                              As for the Luxes it is a different demographic. Most here have families and the Prado is a tourer not just a bush basher for a bunch of singles who are more interested in getting their ute further than someone else. Here we want to do all that, in comfort and in a vehicle that is safe for the whole family. Not to mention to be used as a daily driver.
                              My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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                              • #75
                                NCOP doesn't (yet) apply to NSW.
                                "Sure it’s quiet, for a diesel, but that’s like being well-behaved… for a murderer."- Jeremy Clarkson

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