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    Symo
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  • Symo
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    Originally posted by cuda View Post
    Its funny all these comments V6 resale considering just normal dealer is offering 27k for a 09 VX Prado with 125k on the clock. Carsales also seems to indicate V6's are selling ok. Tag some and watch how long they take to sell with a decent price. Always the diesel vs petrol debate creates some interesting story and feedback. The sad story about diesel is that its a big polluter and European's are starting to take notice. Its great to see Diesel reduces the CO2 produced but the trade off is far worse. Heres a snippet from a recent article.

    Diesels produce 15% less CO2 than petrol, but emit four times more nitrogen dioxide pollution (NO2) and 22 times more particulates - the tiny particles that penetrate the lungs, brain and heart.
    As new research shows that diesel fumes are worse than expected for health, triggering cancers, heart attacks and the stunting of children’s growth, many politicians have admitted a major environmental mistake.

    Complete article http://www.theguardian.com/environme...alth-pollution

    This might make you think twice about diesel vs petrol debate.
    Trouble is, matter can neither be created nor destroyed. So change your fuel type from diesel to petrol to electric and the energy generation just moves elsewhere, the pollution still occurs, just somewhere else.

    There is no silver bullet, all we can do is reduce the outputs as much as possible and compensate for them where we can.

    Go plant a tree and enjoy your 450nm.

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  • cuda
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  • cuda
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    Its funny all these comments V6 resale considering just normal dealer is offering 27k for a 09 VX Prado with 125k on the clock. Carsales also seems to indicate V6's are selling ok. Tag some and watch how long they take to sell with a decent price. Always the diesel vs petrol debate creates some interesting story and feedback. The sad story about diesel is that its a big polluter and European's are starting to take notice. Its great to see Diesel reduces the CO2 produced but the trade off is far worse. Heres a snippet from a recent article.

    Diesels produce 15% less CO2 than petrol, but emit four times more nitrogen dioxide pollution (NO2) and 22 times more particulates - the tiny particles that penetrate the lungs, brain and heart.
    As new research shows that diesel fumes are worse than expected for health, triggering cancers, heart attacks and the stunting of children’s growth, many politicians have admitted a major environmental mistake.

    Complete article http://www.theguardian.com/environme...alth-pollution

    This might make you think twice about diesel vs petrol debate.

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  • juc33_prado
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    V6's don't sell coz the only re-purchaser of them is 20-25 yo's who want offroad grunt and cheaper to run around in...

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  • nanbar
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    My sister had a pristine 2004 GXL V6, never ever been off road. Low km, a genuine Toorak Tractor. Took her nearly 18 mths to sell this year and got SFA for it. No one wants them. Also, for the record, towed a 10x5 tandem full of solid bricks (water level full around 500odd) from Melbourne to Daylesford. Was fairly close to the 2000kg trailer and MY14 3.0L limit I reckon. Pulled like a school boy! Cruise control set to 100kmh, dropped a kmh or two on some of the bigger hills but quickly recovered. I'd imagine the 2.8L would be even better with improved power and torque.

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  • Symo
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  • Symo
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    Originally posted by RaggedJoe View Post
    1. Towing a 2,000 kg boat 10 km every couple of weeks, 250km once a year. Tow other light stuff from time to time.
    2. Need to get to those speeds or want to? V6 gets me there as quick as I want, suspect I will need to be patient with 2.8
    Resale on my 10 year old V6 will be 2-3k less than a diesel, no big deal after 10 years.

    Interestingly lease quote for Ford Everest was dearer than Prado! Lease companies are unsure of resale for Everest whereas Prado is a known good value at the end of the lease.
    LOL, my assistant has a 10 year old V6 120, can't give it away at $9k - one of my other employees buys rights and repairs them, bought his last 120 1kd for $18K with 70k on the clock, fixed the kangaroo strike and sold it 4 weeks later for $30k. Same model, same age.

    V6 is toxic come resale no matter how new or old. Even if it is more fun to drive. If want performance and 2+ Tonne towing, buy a V8 Commodore or Turbo Falcon. The shit resale is a no cost option on them too.

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  • bing10
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    Special Offer
    Back
    2015 LandCruiser Prado Turbo-Diesel GXL

    June - Dec Production Models only. Automatic, Non-Metallic Paint.
    Special Offer
    from $63,990

    DRIVEAWAY [A]

    The Toyota Prado comes with a range of car features and clever design elements that equip it for many conceivable off road situations while ensuring that it is a completely practical and comfortable car about town.
    2015 LandCruiser Prado Turbo Diesel GXL in Glacier White
    KEY FEATURES
    2.8L Turbo-Diesel engine
    Privacy glass
    Roof rails
    3-zone climate control air conditioning
    Satellite Navigation[N1] and Toyotalink[TL1]
    Premium steering wheel with audio and telephone controls
    Rear parking sensors[B4]
    Heated and retractable side view mirrors
    - See more at: http://www.toyota.com.au/special-off....GY3IgAPY.dpuf


    good deal , when you compare it to the "toyota special". looks like you got $2000 in extras

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  • Puddock
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  • Puddock
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    Just put a deposit on a 2.8 GXL Metal Storm, tints, nudge bar, roof bars, towbar and harness. Drive away $64.5K

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  • RaggedJoe
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    Originally posted by nanbar View Post
    Can I ask:
    1. Are your towing big loads? If so, by a 200 series or an old 100 series.
    2. How quick do you need to get to 60kmh, 70kmh, 80kmh & 100kmh? The 3L D4D gets me there plenty quick enough.
    I supposed you'll get a petrol one cheap as chips because no one wants them.
    When you go so sell it or trade it in though, you may as well give it away.
    1. Towing a 2,000 kg boat 10 km every couple of weeks, 250km once a year. Tow other light stuff from time to time.
    2. Need to get to those speeds or want to? V6 gets me there as quick as I want, suspect I will need to be patient with 2.8
    Resale on my 10 year old V6 will be 2-3k less than a diesel, no big deal after 10 years.

    Interestingly lease quote for Ford Everest was dearer than Prado! Lease companies are unsure of resale for Everest whereas Prado is a known good value at the end of the lease.

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  • RaggedJoe
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    Originally posted by RyanIAm View Post
    Before anyone pulls the trigger on a 2.8, have a read of my other thread regarding my dead 2.8. Hopefully it's something minor but important to keep in mind.
    Ouch, that sounds and looks nasty. I am about to pull the trigger as well....

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  • cuda
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  • cuda
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    2016 Toyota Prado VX V6
    Genuine tow bar
    Floor mats
    Tint
    12 month rego
    $74k arrives Feb 2016.

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  • RyanIAm
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  • RyanIAm
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    Before anyone pulls the trigger on a 2.8, have a read of my other thread regarding my dead 2.8. Hopefully it's something minor but important to keep in mind.

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  • cuda
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  • cuda
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    Originally posted by nanbar View Post
    Can I ask:
    1. Are your towing big loads? If so, by a 200 series or an old 100 series.
    2. How quick do you need to get to 60kmh, 70kmh, 80kmh & 100kmh? The 3L D4D gets me there plenty quick enough.
    I supposed you'll get a petrol one cheap as chips because no one wants them.
    When you go so sell it or trade it in though, you may as well give it away.
    1. 2T towing occasionally. I have towed with the V6 and liken the acceleration going up the hill pulling the van to planting my foot with 2.8l not towing getting onto the highway.

    2. Its really the upper end of the speeds 80+km/h that are important to me as I see myself being stuck behind big truck etc while towing because I just dont have the acceleration to get past them. I feel I would still have that acceleration with the V6.

    3. I have not heard of any major issues with the V6 breaking down "touch wood". Whereas the common rail diesels have and I believe its down to the quality of our diesel. European diesel is far better than ours I think which leads to less injector issues etc.

    4. Petrols at this stage are still holding there value as there is a small percentage of V6 lovers out there. I can confirm this because my current V6 is going to be traded sold for less than $5k diff of the diesel.

    Diesels have there followers but so too petrols. If Toyota did a V6 diesel I may change my mind.

    Thanks

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  • nanbar
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  • nanbar
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    Originally posted by cuda View Post
    I have the same problem. Drove the V6 and 2.8 and just cant get away from the v6 grunt and power. The diesel feels sluggish. Sure the consumption is higher with the petrol but its a very reliable donk. I sticking with the petrol me thinks.
    Can I ask:
    1. Are your towing big loads? If so, by a 200 series or an old 100 series.
    2. How quick do you need to get to 60kmh, 70kmh, 80kmh & 100kmh? The 3L D4D gets me there plenty quick enough.
    I supposed you'll get a petrol one cheap as chips because no one wants them.
    When you go so sell it or trade it in though, you may as well give it away.

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  • LittleAndy
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  • LittleAndy
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    Hello all
    After alot of wishfull thinking and drooling at pictures/photo's of everyone Else's prado's here, i'm finally at the stage of getting one.
    Yesterday went and test drove the new 2.8gxl and the fortuner crusade. Prado was first off the rank, loved it, was very surprised at the turning circle and how quiet it was. Fortuner, it was marginally louder than the prado, but to drive it was very nice, just like driving a car. But space wise it was lacking, i know it is like 20cm approx shorter than the prado but it had no leg room in the back 2 seats and if you were to slide the middle seat forward to give some room in the back than the middle would have hardly any leg room.
    Anyway back to the prado, I live in Tamworth, country NSW and was wondering if anyone else has bought one yet here and at what price and if any extra's. Or can anyone reccommend a good dealership to go through in the region. Any help muchly appreciated.

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  • cuda
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  • cuda
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    Originally posted by RaggedJoe View Post
    I am going to move up from the 2005 petrol 120. 195,000 trouble free kms, but time to upgrade. Drove an Evererest and was not super impressed, felt small inside and finish was cheap compared to Prado.

    Drove the new 2.8 Prado and it's a nice wagon. In NZ the VX is the mid range, and it's well specced. Not sure the 2.8 is going to be enough after 10 years of 4.0 V6 grunt? Anyone moved from petrol to be 2.8? Thoughts? Advice?
    I have the same problem. Drove the V6 and 2.8 and just cant get away from the v6 grunt and power. The diesel feels sluggish. Sure the consumption is higher with the petrol but its a very reliable donk. I sticking with the petrol me thinks.

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