Aftermarket front recovery points for 150 Series

[fido666]

I then used a few large washers to fit under the upper bolt hole so it fits flush and parallel with the chassis rail.

So is there any sort of gap between the points and the chassis rail? I was told this could cause the points to shear off at the bolt and that's why packing out with washers was not recommended.

[ko762]

I dont know if it will help but here are a couple of pics of the recovery points on my D4D Kakadu.

Jasen,

Where these photos taken prior to the smartbar fitment? Just curious as my smart bar(with winch mount) bracket sits under the lower bolt hole. I then used a few large washers to fit under the upper bolt hole so it fits flush and parallel with the chassis rail.

Ken

[fido666]

It better or the points might just come in handy as a weapon.

[SOL]

Have heard back from Roadsafe and will be heading out there early next week to go over the points. My contact there says it's the outermost 2 holes that are supposed to be used for the 150; I have pointed out the conflicting info in their install guide.

Fido I wish you all the luck that all goes well.

SOL.

[mjrandom]

I dont know if it will help but here are a couple of pics of the recovery points on my D4D Kakadu.

Looks like you need a recovery. Gravity is the other way.

Fido I hope they can sort it out. The points are plasma cut so there shouldn't be a big deal modifying the shape to suit the Kakadu. And I don't trust bike tyres without lumps, I am a Yeti boy as per avatar.

I will have a closer look at mine but I suspect there is a washer under the plate to let it sit flat.

[fido666]

Have heard back from Roadsafe and will be heading out there early next week to go over the points. My contact there says it's the outermost 2 holes that are supposed to be used for the 150; I have pointed out the conflicting info in their install guide.

[fido666]

Thanks Jasen but don't you have a Smartbar? Some of the issues I'm having are caused by the bullbar mount on my TJM T13 bar. I'm not sure how your bar mounts up to the chassis, you don't seem to have a central support bracket like mine.

[fido666]

Fido why couldn't they fit them like Ages? That way no overlap since Ages bar mount and mine look the same.

Remember that in Ages case they have left out one of the bolts at the top of the point in order to fit the OI points. On the driver's side it wouldn't matter on a Kakadu/VX since they only use one bolt at the top of the bullbar mount anyway due to KDSS. This doesn't fix the passenger side issue though where both top bolts need to be in place on the bullbar mount. There wasn't much point fitting only 1 point, they are designed to work in pairs.

Sorry to hear about the fall hope for a rapid recovery.

Thanks, I think I should have kept my MTB. Somehow I don't think 700c wheels and me will be good friends.

[mjrandom]

Fido why couldn't they fit them like Ages? That way no overlap since Ages bar mount and mine look the same. Sorry to hear about the fall hope for a rapid recovery.

[fido666]

I have marked up some pics to show the issues. I have used MJ's pics since his bar mounts are the same as mine. I'm guessing these issues would affect MJ's install too apart from the missing chassis hole on the driver's side, that looks to be a KDSS or Kakadu related issue.







Click on the thumbnails to enlarge the pics. Hope this helps to clarify the issues.

Not having a good couple of days, fell off my new bike yesterday and still very sore and stiff from hitting the bitumen.

[Ages]

damn mate,
I was really hoping that you would have some success.

[SOL]

So all in all a disappointing result for a product marketed as fitting the 150 series with a TJM steel bar. I will be following up with Roadsafe as I'm now left with expensive paperweights I can't use. My local TJM will also be following up with them as they say they have had similar issues with previous installs on other 150s. To TJM's credit they did not charge me for the time they spent trying to install the points even though I didn't buy them there.

Fido Sorry to here about your hassle. time to trade in on something more easier to modify 40series!?!?!?!


SOL.

[mjrandom]

I am really confused. Is the Kakadu different to the VX? Ages recovery points look just the same as mine without the spare hole. Do you have pics?

[fido666]

I'll be keen to see how you go with yours on friday Fido.

Well I'm afraid it's not good news guys, the RoadSafe points will not fit correctly on my Kakadu with the T13 bar. I took it out to TJM this morning and they did a test fit but came up with these issues :-

1. On the driver's side there would be a 3mm gap between the point and the chassis caused by the end of the point overlapping the existing nut and washer on the outermost edge at the top of the bull bar mounting bracket and there is actually no hole in the chassis where the top bolt needs to go (that's the 2nd hole in from the outermost hole at the top of the point).

2. On the passenger side the point would fit but only if the top bolt on the bullbar mounting bracket had its washer removed. With the washer in place the end of the point would be sitting on top of the washer and the point would not be flush with the bar (just like on the other side). I asked whether the point could be packed out with a washer in between the point and the bullbar mounting bracket but they said that would compromise the strength of the point and they weren't happy to do that.

The guys at TJM said the points basically need to be redesigned so they follow the contour of the bullbar mounting bracket and both top mounting bolts with no overlaps. For the passenger side notching the end of the point so it goes around the outermost bolt on the bullbar bracket would solve the issue but that doesn't solve the issues on the driver's side.

So all in all a disappointing result for a product marketed as fitting the 150 series with a TJM steel bar. I will be following up with Roadsafe as I'm now left with expensive paperweights I can't use. My local TJM will also be following up with them as they say they have had similar issues with previous installs on other 150s. To TJM's credit they did not charge me for the time they spent trying to install the points even though I didn't buy them there.

[mjrandom]

Mines a D4D auto.